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Published 09 October 2012, updated 14 December 2012

Brussels has placed itself on a collision course with Britain's ruling Conservative party by issuing a blunt warning on the dangers of stifling the green agenda.

As David Cameron faced pressure from the Tory right to adopt a more confrontational approach to the EU, Europe's environment chief spoke out against critics of environmental regulations for making "untrue" claims.

Janez Potočnik, the European environment commissioner, told the Guardian that for politicians to suggest that green legislation was a burden was "very unhelpful, because it is untrue".

"That rhetoric is missing the point," Potočnik said. "The economy needs the environment, and the environment needs the economy."

The commissioner, whose comments came after Danny Alexander, the Liberal Democrat Treasury chief secretary, accused the Tories of waging a "constant war of attrition" on green issues, stopped short of naming any Tory ministers.

But George Osborne, who announced a slowing of the pace on climate change targets at the Tory conference last year, has repeatedly attacked green regulations as a burden on businesses and warned they would make the UK less competitive than other countries.

Potočnik's intervention came as Cameron prepares to reach out to Eurosceptics by outlining in a major speech later this autumn how he will give voters a say, possibly in a referendum, over Britain's relationship with the EU.

The prime minister will say that the consent of the people is needed – probably in the next parliament – after a new EU treaty is negotiated to introduce greater fiscal co-ordination in the eurozone.

Britain will not be part of any new governance arrangements for the eurozone, but it will have a veto in the treaty negotiations, which means the prime minister would attempt to repatriate powers, possibly social and employment laws.

Boris Johnson is likely to pile pressure on the prime minister to move faster to recast Britain's relationship with the EU when he makes two speeches at the Tory conference in Birmingham on Monday and Tuesday. David Davis, the former Tory leadership contender, has called for a "big renegotiation" of Britain's relationship with the EU.

The former Europe minister told the House Magazine: "The explicit answer to the European issue, whether it's eurozone or the more general European membership issue, is a big renegotiation and multiple referendums. People say now's not the time to negotiate with the Europeans. There's never a right time to bloody negotiate with the Europeans. There's always an excuse."

The remarks by high-profile eurosceptics show that any intervention by a senior Brussels figure will be sensitive. The environment commissioner told the Guardian he was in favour of streamlining regulations. But Potočnik said he did not want to weaken them. "I'm not saying you should not simplify as much as possible – that is worthy of attention," he said.

The commissioner also warned that measures to remove harmful substances from manufacturing, and to curb pollution, climate change and other environmental damage, could not simply be put off indefinitely. "Don't kill industry with kindness – if [dealing with such an issue] is unavoidable, then to try to protect an industry from doing so as long as possible makes it a real problem."

By providing a clear framework for what is acceptable behaviour and what is not, green regulations not only safeguard the public but also help businesses, he said, because they mean that unscrupulous companies cannot undercut conscientious rivals by polluting or falling short of good standards.

Potočnik added that dismissing regulations on problems such as pollution and industrial safety would result in more serious problems and higher costs later on. He said: "When someone talks about the cost of doing something, you should ask about the cost of not doing it."

Good regulation could save money and foster innovation and new industries in which Europe could take a lead, according to the commissioner. "I am a firm believer in markets, which will play a crucial role, but we need to have prices [on pollution], taxes and incentives for removing harmful substances, and so on – to give a clear signal to industry."

One of the most contentious green issues between the UK and EU has been the failure to meet air pollution targets. London's air has repeatedly breached levels of particulates and other pollutants that can cause breathing difficulties and contribute to ill health and premature deaths. This leaves the government liable for huge fines that could run into hundreds of millions.

If the air at pollution monitoring sites contains particulates above a level of 50 micrograms per cubic metre on more than 35 days of the year, the UK will have breached EU standards. London has had a series of extensions since 2005 to allow the government to meet the standards, so far without success.

Potočnik warned that the commission would take a hard line on enforcing the regulations. "That is what we are there to do. We will absolutely be strict – that is the rule," he said. "And it is how we will contribute to a better life for people."

He said improving air quality would reduce the burden on health services, help avoid premature deaths and cut the incidence of respiratory problems.

Fiona Harvey for the Guardian, part of the Guardian Environment Network

COMMENTS

  • Is it like an inherent tendency the English gentlemen have to always back anything unfair?
    They usually place short term profit making (preferably by a tiny minority) above any sort of aim or value in politics, but it seems they would even get more thrills out of polluting the planet or making poor people suffer, eventhough it were costly to their finances. That's not anymore selfish or greedy , it's just crual and nasty for the fun of it.

    By :
    UKskeptic
    - Posted on :
    09/10/2012
  • UKskeptic (I like the name, by the way. Its nicely ironic!!). English gentlemen (a dying breed but not through reasons of pollution) recognise scams and con artists when they see them, such as many in the Green lobby. Many in this country think it is a load of bollocks especially when one sees and reads of certain well known MPs and, of course, the Arch Enemy Al Gore, making large sums of money out of trying to scare the populace with some very dubiously fact-based "stories". Admittedly, there are other scare stories such as the UK being plunged into darkness by 2015 or so due to the diktats coming out of the Holy Roman Empire as well as the bollocks written about the efficacy of windmills (not delivering to their designed capacity, costing a fortune and requiring power stations as back up to meet shortfalls). We are not cruel and nasty (or no more so than any of the people in the other 26 countries or even elsewhere in the world) - just highly realistic and nobody's fool.

    By :
    Don Latuske
    - Posted on :
    09/10/2012
  • Don L.
    Disindustrialised Britain which hardly exports anything (but oil), still is Europe's biggest carbon emettor just after the productive and export leader Germany. Relativly to the weight of the factory sector, it makes the UK score the dirtiest living style, but this hasn't yet made them richer... Pagmatism should force the british gentlemen to recognise pollution causes more disease than wealth. It's nothing Al Gore has discovered, it's something many societies have experienced in history.

    But actually who cares if the british want to waste the most energy and live with an exhaust pipe in the mouth because they believe it will lead them to wealth. The problem is they live right next to us and it could damage our own environment.

    Anyway the Kingdom of her majesty is always going to believe binge-wasting in better for their economy, just like obesity or workhouses / poorhouses under the puritains. Not mentioning apartheid or the Mau-mau which obviously had their highly realistic necessity.

    By :
    UKskeptic
    - Posted on :
    09/10/2012
  • The British withstood (better than the rest of Europe at least) the Brown and the Red terrorists in the 20th century, let's hope they stand up to the Green variety of the very same scum just as manly. If they succeed, and may become the first country where Greenism is as illegal as Nazism is in Germany today, I might even forgive them for abandoning Hong Kong to the Reds (rather than calling the USA and everybody to War to defend the city!)

    By :
    Chris
    - Posted on :
    10/10/2012
  • Chris: The only reason Britain didn't fall into hitler's hands is because he didn't really care to go on with or without Britain. The Nazis only failed thanks to the power of the USA and the Soviet Union. Britain's role, as everyone knows was as significant as the british influence since Victoria, 160 years ago: absent. Get used to it, it would be about time!

    By :
    UKskeptic
    - Posted on :
    10/10/2012
  • Janez Potočnik, the European environment commissioner,is a crook like all of the EU green bureaucrats.

    By :
    Sean
    - Posted on :
    13/10/2012
  • 1) There is no global warming. Full stop. No actual warming has been recorded. The only thing recorded is the natural variability of, yes! Nature!
    2) There is absolutely no indication what so ever that these variations have been altered by humans.
    3) There is no consensus on any scientific evidence of climate change, much less any consensus on anthropogenic climate change. There is however some conformism in the matter. But that is a rather different perspective.
    4) The science is not settled. Science very rarely is. Since this infamous proclamation by Pachauri, a number of scientific reports have shown how little we actually know about climate.
    5) It is absolutely appalling that EU commissioners threaten legal European governments with repercussions if they do not comply with a conformist lie!

    If you read Swedish, please visit my blog www.frihetsportalen.se
    On occasion I also write in english

    By :
    Mats Jangdal
    - Posted on :
    15/10/2012
  • Britain GET OUT of the emerging GREEN United States of Europe.

    Take your "Financial Services" with you and good riddance!!

    By :
    david tarbuck
    - Posted on :
    15/10/2012
  • Mr. Tarbuck, I knew your uncle Jimmy, a very funny man in his day although he was a stand-up comedian. You, though, seem to be nearly as funny even if you are just a clown. (I thought you would appreciate the abusive nature of this comment as your species seem to only be able to express yourselves in such a manner.

    UKskeptic -you clearly cannot be British if you believe that Britain had had no influence in the world for 160 years since the time of Victoria. I have no idea where you were educated - probably England, given such a level of ignorance!

    By :
    Don Latuske
    - Posted on :
    15/10/2012
  • Obviously we must accept the EU claim that it is "untrue" thatGreen subsidies cost anything, as representing the viry highest standard of honesty to which that organisation ever aspires.

    Equally obviously subsidising things does cost monet. The highest standard of honesty to whhich the EU ever aspires is to be wholly, completely and totally dishonest, pensioner murfering ecofascist paraites.

    I don't think anybody can dispute that logically pr that it is possible for any6 human being with any integrity to dispute it illogically.

    It is an undeniable fact that the whole world, but particilarly the western world is being deliberately impoverished by the obscene subhiman thieving parasites of the "Green" movement. That we would all be at least 4 times better off without these disgusting animals.

    By :
    Neil Craig
    - Posted on :
    15/10/2012
  • Don L.

    Since 160 years england has successivly been overtaken by Germany and Japan, the US and Russia, China and now bresil, India... The 20th centuary is a period of constant decay for the UK: since the Titanic 100 years ago, Britain has twice been destroyed by world wars, lost consequantly all credibility as a leader of the Commonwealth, which forced them into decolonisation. The only thing left they managed to retain is the Folklands. America collected all british positions in the english speaking world or beyond, as well as most of its gold and strategic assets. The UKs nuclear weapon or seat at the UN security council is just a joke as they happen to vote 85% of the time just like another member and just rent their Trident from the US. They merely do everything they are told as a docile poodle. Compared to Victorian times, quite a lot of water has be running under Tower Bridge... But however uneducated the british may have become, I wonder whether they really are oblivious to these facts, unlike the rest of the world, or if they rather choose happily to forget about them.

    Anyway knowing whether I'm british or not won't help many of us here understand what kind of independance Britain is to regain in the world ,thanks to this new magical stategy alone, overseas, out of the EU. As a european citizen, I'm cerlainly entitled to give my opinion on euractiv about british deluded in-with-opt-outs or out-with-opt-ins membership of the club my country has signed-up for, wherever in the EU the latter might be.

    By :
    UKskeptic
    - Posted on :
    21/10/2012
  • UKskeptic, matey!! I really don't think you understand. We, in the UK, really don't give a stuff about what our position may or may not be in the world now or in the future.If we have no influence, so be it. Why should you be bothered? We're not! If the EU crush us, so what? I'm not sure why they would want to do so. If we are such a washed-up nation that has been living on past glories, why would anybody be keen to try and keep us, a failed nation, in its club? Why has Merkel, up until recently, anyway, been keen to keep the UK onside? How can it be worth the effort, as we are such a failed nation? Get real, old chap! Its a simple matter of mind over matter - we don't mind and you don't matter. Regards, as always........

    By :
    Don Latuske
    - Posted on :
    22/10/2012
  • Don L., I don't think I'm the only one, even among british people not fully understanding the purposes euroskeptics have, and the strategy they propose to follow. I doubt anyone bothers in Europe to have Britain or not in the club: it worked ok before the uk joined and will go on so. In the EUs history, Germans never have showed much compassion or patience (unlike the Nederlands) for the UKs positions, and I guess they generally don't understand you much (and don't trust you as a consequence) though you share some cultural features.

    If you ask my own preference (who cares?), I certainly wouldn't mind if the UK were to finally leave the club (and even close completly to Europe so they agonise in silence). But as a thinking citizen I can't help wondering how the euroskeptics can claim to manage avoiding such a demise for their country, out of the EU. With who else would they trade and for how much cheaper? It has nothing to do with your personal likes, as a consumer choice in a supermarket, it has to do with the course of history, economic determinants, and strategic possibilities. Whether you fancy the EU or not isn't sufficient at explaining what your country will manage to do better outside of it.

    Your personal strategy apparently is: who cares about the figures, let's try not to think and it will happen easy cheesy. But I doubt politicians at a certain level of responsability in a government can truly believe so. They are merely playing with you.

    By :
    UKskeptic
    - Posted on :
    22/10/2012
  • UKskeptic - nice to read your more cogent style of english!! WEe've just seen reported throughout all of the UK press that, for the first time in about 20 years, our trade is significantly more now with non-EU countries i.e. the BRICS and former commonwealth countries, who are increasingly more competitive. The EU is currently stagnating, more so while it focuses on its current crises to the detriment of pretty much the mass of European countries/people. From the otehr side, we are an important market place for EU countries - you can rail against that or disagree as much as you want but it is pretty much there or there abouts. I believe we can continue to trade without being a member of the EU and save ourselves a great deal of money. I would much prevfer that we pay our old and poor people enough money to heat their homes and eat rather than fill the bloated faces of the euro elite who could not give a toss about anybody other than themselves. For them, the end justifies the means - not unlike those other mad bastards such as Stalin.

    By :
    Don Latuske
    - Posted on :
    23/10/2012
  • Don L., May I first congatulate you for your slendid bilingual level of english. If I follow you, then I guess in the UK the MPs expenses or Rupert Murdoch's mafia scandals, have made the british elite just like those "mad bastards such as Stalin" then, as you call the EUs administrators. Regarding Brussels, I haven't heard as much corruption going around as in London, eventhough it must exist. But if you are so concerned about paying for your old and poor, you should rather ask the Barclays brothers, the Northern Rock, Hsbc and others in your own country, who managed to waist thousend times more of your tax-payors money in 30 years, than everything all of your discount contributions paid for in the history of EUs whole budgets (which also provided, you couldn't deny it, investments in eastern and southern Europe which boosted jobs and demand in the UK for decades).

    Since the UK lost the Commonwealth (while never yet having joined the EU), its trade with the continent compared to the rest of the whole world has always been fluctuating at around 50%-50%. If the Eurozone may temporarily be slowing down given the current crisis, it doesn't show anyway that the UK is knowing a revolution of its world-trade economy, eventhough China Bresil and the Asian South East do get more of a share (in still far from comparable proportions). It neither happens any more specifically in the UK as in every other european trading nations, who alltogether can negociate much stronger agreements overseas than the UK ever could alone.

    Anyway America as most of countries from the fomer commonwealth trading bloc or elsewhere, already belong to continental bloccs trading increasingly within themselves and I wonder what the UK could now change to that all of a sudden, by its own. Out of the EU everything in fact will merely stay the same for Britain: your necessary submission to the ever-more-united continental standards will still apply economically as well as politicaly, no matter how you fancy to put it in your constitution and wether you participate or not to the decision making. I'm affraid money runs the world, not anymore the sovereignty of Her Majesty ...

    But the euroskeptics will have managed to win a political battle, fooling the british people around, and that's all what's going to happen.

    By :
    UKskeptic
    - Posted on :
    23/10/2012
Background: 

UK Prime Minister David Cameron, who has been largely critical of the EU, entered an uneasy government coalition in 2010 with the pro-European Liberal Democrat party.

But as the eurozone eyes greater fiscal, banking and possibly even political integration to sovereign solve its debt crisis, Cameron is under growing pressure from the rebellious right wing of his own party to give Britons a vote on whether they wish to remain inside the EU or to downgrade their relationship with Brussels.

Senior politicians from the Labour party have sought to gain advantage from Cameron's difficult position, calling for Britain to clarify its relations with the EU by holding a referendum.

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