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Published 13 January 2012

Concerns are growing in Brussels that persistent denial of human-caused global warming among Republican presidential hopefuls could damage EU-US relations and even spark a trade conflict.

All the leading challengers for the White House have staked out positions on global warming that defy the international scientific consensus, causing what Thomas Legge, a climate officer for the German Marshall Fund, called “exasperation” in Brussels.

Climate Action Commissioner Connie Hedegaard said in September she was “shocked that the political debate in the US is so far away from the scientific facts.”

“When you hear American presidential candidates denying climate change, it's difficult to take,” she said.

If a Republican president disrupted the EU's inclusion of aviation in the EU’s Emissions Trading System, or its default values ascribed to oil from tar sands, Jo Leinen, the chair of the European Parliament’s environment committee, called for “a reaction that would affect transatlantic trade.”

Trade turbulence

“In order to have a fair competition between our industries and theirs, we could talk about broader measures against materials from the US with high energy intensity or output of climate gases like steel, metals, and chemical products,” he told EurActiv.

This could take the form of “a CO2 levy or tax on the border to compensate for the [low carbon] investments in products made in Europe,” he said.

Rather than continue with current EU-US relations, Leinen proposed a move by the EU to “orient itself towards a coalition with China.”

But Sarah Ludford, the Liberal vice-chair of the EU’s delegation for relations with the United States, disagreed with trade sanctions, while conceding that Republican positions were “a long way from the mainstream of European thinking”.

“As a free-trader, I am always a little bit wary of trade linkages,” she said by telephone from London. “I understand where Jo Leinen is coming from but I would tread with caution as you can descend into a tit-for-tat situation that carries considerable dangers.”

“I hope that Obama wins the election and we get a more moderate and encouraging position from the US administration,” she added, speaking in a personal capacity.

Six candidates are vying for the Republican party's nomination to challenge Democrat incumbent Barack Obama in the November general election.

Republican brainchild

Ironically, the ‘cap and trade’ idea that underwrites the global carbon market was originally the brainchild of US Republicans. But this changed because of what one senior US climate negotiator at Kyoto described as a collection of “toxic” ingredients.

“There are three issues – constraining industry, sending money abroad, and strengthening the UN – that are inflammatory on their own right,” Nigel Purvis, a State Department official under the Clinton and Bush administrations, said on the phone from Washington.

More than that, the climate change issue had become a symbol of ‘big government’ for Republicans, Purvis argued, and this had been amplified by “an enormous amount of campaign finance contributions and political advertising” paid for by the fossil fuel industry, and some trades-unions.

“When you put all these factors together, they are a Molotov cocktail,” Purvis said. “It is unfortunate and quite dangerous.”

Durban roadmap

The UN climate chief Christiana Figueres has said leadership changes in the US and elsewhere should not undermine progress towards setting up a globally binding climate deal by 2015, as set down in the roadmap at the recent global climate summit in Durban, South Africa.

However, Republican party presidential contenders may disagree with Figueres' analysis.

Rick Santorum has described global warming as “a liberal conspiracy” for government control, based on “junk science”. Mitt Romney argues that the origins of climate change are unknown, and little should be spent on countering it.

Ron Paul has called global warming “the greatest hoax… in hundreds of years”, while Rick Perry described it as a “contrived phony mess that is falling apart under its own weight”. Newt Gingrich has recanted past support for climate action.

Only the moderate outrider Jon Huntsman accepts the climate science adhered to by the Inter-governmental Panel on Climate Change and some 98% of the world’s scientific community.

Legge says the current crop of Republican contenders might be less antagonistic to climate science in the White House than they were on the hustings, partly because the government’s civil service is staffed by officials with scientific backgrounds.

He also suggested that “the candidates are taking positions of necessity to win primaries and they will then tack back to the centre.”

Nigel Purvis, now the president of the Climate Advisers consultancy in Washington, agreed that there was long-term cause for optimism with progress being made towards tackling US carbon emissions. 

But “it is really regrettable that we have gone from being on the brink of a major success in 2009 with the election of a strong climate champion [Obama] and Democrat control of the Congress, back even further than we were when George W. Bush was elected.”

“The revisiting of the basics on science is depressing,” he said.

Next steps: 
  • 6 Mar. 2012: 'Super Tuesday' in which a dozen states will hold their Republican presidential primaries at the same time.
  • 6 Nov. 2012: US presidential elections scheduled to be held.
  • 2015: The Durban Summit mandated that a binding global climate treaty should be negotiated by this time.
  • 2020: The new UN Framework Convention on Climate Change global climate treaty should take effect.
Arthur Neslen

COMMENTS

  • The opinions of Mr. Leinen remind me of his infamous almost namesake Vladimir Iliich. In short, global warming is more a political dogma, and its proponents are primarily interested in political power. The environmental concerns rank actually very low among their priorities and real intentions, although they like to speak loud about them.

    By :
    Big City Nights
    - Posted on :
    13/01/2012
  • Wow big city nights. Tenuous link. Leinen and Lenin. Poor, poor, poor. The point is that the USA is making an international fool of itself on this issue, and if it continues to pursue such an anti-science agenda it will inevitably lead to disagreements with others.

    Fortunately the US private sector is going ahead and investing in green tech anyway. Let us hope that soon the economics overtakes the politics and renders these dinosaurs irrelevant.

    By :
    themushypea
    - Posted on :
    13/01/2012
  • It isn't the USA that looks foolish, it's those dumb enough to fall for the scam. It is junk science with a political agenda.

    By :
    bobh
    - Posted on :
    14/01/2012
  • In the 1980s Spitting Image had a section of the show called "The President's Brain is missing" this was prescient in as much as Ray-gun was suffering the on-set of Alzheimers at that time. Moving to 2012 perhaps a re-visit and something along the lines of "Republicans Brains Are Missing" would be topical. For those that feel this is unfair/hatful etc, I offer this recent quote from Mr Gingrich one of the presidential hopefuls (I promise you he meant it seriously) and it does make one wonder if he and some of the other "hopefuls" are not a few beers short of a six pack as it were - which in turn raises the question - are they mentally capable of discharging the duties of president (or will they be glove puppets - much as Ray-gun was)

    "I am convinced that if we do not decisively win the struggle over the nature of America, by the time [my grandchildren are] my age they will be in a secular atheist country, potentially one dominated by radical Islamists and with no understanding of what it once meant to be an American"

    I invite readers to spot the er... rather obvious logical flaws in the above. With respect to climate change and junk science, presumably American originated fantasies such as "intelligent design" would not of course fall into that category (snigger).

    By :
    Mike Parr
    - Posted on :
    14/01/2012
  • Climate Action Commissioner Connie Hedegaard said in September she was “shocked that the political debate in the US is so far away from the scientific facts.”

    I think Connie meant IPCC pseudoscience-based mantra.

    Concerns are growing in Brussels that persistent denial of human-caused global warming among Republican presidential hopefuls could damage EU-US relations and even spark a trade conflict.

    What? Rather, its Europe that is very good at starting 'wars'. isn't it? Look what the EU is trying to impose on the international aviation industry... a tax on airline emissions!

    The EU simply thinks it can impose its imperialism on the world again... using AGW. Fortunately, it is about the only major jurisdiction that is still swallowing this con.

    By :
    Mervyn Sullivan
    - Posted on :
    15/01/2012
  • All these European and UN leaders certainly aren't acting as if it were a dire problem in their personal lives. When they start living a life of austerity then maybe I'll take a second look but for now I just see a massive scam for enrichment of a few at the expense of the masses.

    By :
    Chris F
    - Posted on :
    15/01/2012
  • I certainly hope so. It probably has not dawned on EU leaders that the already-enacted onerous climate rules have contributed the the severe economic problems plaguing the EU. I would hate to see the US leaders follow suit although California is leading the US in economic suicide through environmental regulation

    By :
    Chuck L
    - Posted on :
    15/01/2012
  • EU is falling appart. Who give a shit what they think and do. Let them convert economy into green and see if the can compete .

    By :
    johnc
    - Posted on :
    15/01/2012
  • EU is falling appart. Who give a shit what they think and do. Let them convert economy into green and see if the can compete .

    By :
    johnc
    - Posted on :
    15/01/2012
  • AGW is a dead issue. Get over it. As more and more scientific data filters in that contradicts the IPCC data, it becomes evident among reasonable scientists that CO2 is ostensibly a non-factor to any climate change - both warm or cold. It is the technocrats with their hand held out for money, not the rank and file scientists that insist on continuing to obfuscate the fact that perhaps we really don't know the full story on why temperatures rise and fall. Obviously, the empirical data does not match the prognostications made by the computer models. It is time to go back and revisit the science. I’m all for alternate energy and the improvement of the human condition, but presuppositions that all climate change is the result of AGW (specifically CO2), is ignorant and most assuredly unscientific. The issue has become a red herring, which advances neither the understanding of climate nor improves the quality of life for the people of this planet. In fact the opposite will occur- more poverty and ignorance

    By :
    urbangreen
    - Posted on :
    15/01/2012
  • That proves that American alternative media has more power than Europeans

    By :
    Lex
    - Posted on :
    15/01/2012
  • lil' Mikey, you're just too clever, and a scholar like Gingrich is obviously just sooo stupid.

    It couldn't be that America could become a secular atheist country from within and also be dominated by fundamentalist islam from without?

    By :
    Justa Joe
    - Posted on :
    15/01/2012
  • When all of the hand-wringing stops and all of the doomsayers are spent the reality that AGW has been exploited for socialist style mass redistribution of wealth cannot be denied. Some of us, discerning enough to understand this, will never submit, never bow down to the false god of man made global warming. Climate has always and always will change, often times much more destructively than today’s mild anomalies. The warmist’s stubborn refusal to acknowledge this is testament to the evil this cult has wrought.

    By :
    jose lori
    - Posted on :
    15/01/2012
  • If the EU really wants initiate trade wars over the weather so be it. The US and the rest of the world can fill the gap with rational trading partners elsewhere.

    By :
    Raymond Kuntz
    - Posted on :
    15/01/2012
  • The EU -LOL.
    The EU is a failed experiment financially and morally, the idea that the bankrupt socialist can even have a trade war with a tiny place like Luxemburg is laughable never mind America in-spite of it's huge problems. The Global warming hoax has all but run its course as a deluge of mounting evidence has already shown. The EU and the UN/IPPC soft underbelly of falsified data, temperature manipulations, climate models that use predetermined outcomes. The scandal of Climategate 1 and the devastating Climategate 2 emails. The highflying, high living, Carbon spewing EU bureaucrats all combine to make the Wall street banksters look like angles.

    Climate Sensitivity = Zero = CO2 Positive driver theory proven wrong by data /temp graphs.

    Satellites have been monitoring the Earth’s temperature for 30 years. For the first fifteen years, temperatures were rising. For the last 15 years, temperatures have been steady, while CO2 emissions have gone through the roof.

    By :
    Dave
    - Posted on :
    16/01/2012
  • There can't be too much doubt a trade war is pending, but one which will be to protect the US simply because when the Euro finally hits rock bottom under the weight of the costs of really going GREEN, not just the USA but even the Chinese will be flat out exporting to the EU.

    There is an upside (of sorts) though as all the boat people ex Africa and far eastern Europe will have no other option than to seek return passages to where they had once come

    France for the French; now isn't that something to savour

    By :
    cogdissonancedagain
    - Posted on :
    16/01/2012
  • Further on the climate hoax:
    Climate sense as always: In the 20 years since the scare was launched, global man-made CO2 emissions have risen by 50 per cent. But at the end of 2011, global temperatures measured by Nasa satellites stood barely a tenth of a degree Celsius higher than their average throughout the 3o+ years since satellite measurements began. The climate system feedback to CO2 induced (or any other temperature forced) warming is “negative”. How anyone can look at the past 500,000 years of climate history and not understand that is simply beyond me.

    By :
    Dave
    - Posted on :
    16/01/2012
  • Yes the EU is becoming a sad laughing stock.

    If the EU cannot create a proper currency, why should any foreign organization takes its "cap-and-trade scheme" however well intended with any seriousness?

    EU can threaten to deny landing, or threten Canadas Oil sands industry but the reality is that their countries would be severely hurt if their tourism dropped off. So, they'll never be able to enforce these.

    I don't blame China. Paying a "pollution tax" is a crock/scam. It's just a scheme for the governments of Europe to make more money. You think they are going to plant a tree with that money? No they are going to line their pockets.

    Don't get me wrong; I'm all for helping the environment but taxing people to death based on phony science does not solve anything. It just gives more money to the crooks and fakes who pretend to protect the environment.

    Canada will prosper thanks to it's oil sands and natural resources the EU will flounder and wallow in unaffordable multiple layers of government and so called renewable failing energy!!!

    By :
    Ted
    - Posted on :
    16/01/2012
  • The Euro Marxists have crippled their economys chasing after the Global Warming fraud.And like the drowning man dragging his partner down with him they wish the same for America.

    By :
    Plague of Progs
    - Posted on :
    16/01/2012
  • To accept the theory of anthropogenic global warming (AGW), one must believe that carbon dioxide traps heat. I can find no proof of this. All I find are opinions and theories.

    To believe in the greenhouse effect one must believe that there is a greenhouse in the atmosphere. A greenhouse, by its walls and roof, limits the escape of warm convection currents into the environment. There is no such limit within the atmosphere. No greenhouse = no greenhouse gasses.

    I have seen no proof that petroleum is a fossil fuel. Many fossils have been discovered,most close to the earth's surface, but none, to my knowledge, have been found associated with petroleum deposits, with the exception of fossil remains of animal trapped in tar pits. It is difficult to believe that petroleum deposits a mile or two miles deep have anything to do with fossils.

    Tomatoes get frosted on clear nights when downwelling of heat energy should be protecting them. They are protected from frost on cloudy nights when the theory says they should be deprived of the heat energy downwelling. The thermometer on my front porch tells me what the air temperature is, in spite of being located in the shade. My furnace warms my house in cold weather. My air conditioner cools my house on hot days.

    Therefore, I still believe in the gas laws of Boyle and Charles and the laws of thermodynamics. It is my conclusion that AGW is claptrap. My opinions are not influenced by income from any fuel industry source.

    Further, the EU will not be allowed to pick our next president.

    By :
    Anymoose
    - Posted on :
    16/01/2012
  • Luckily we in the US have a chance to stop the sovietization of our continent's governance which is impoverishing western Europe at perhaps the fastest rate seen since the total economic collapse of the original . That our less statist party has the common sense to reject this profoundly stupid anti-life Lysenkoism against the very molecule out of which all of us are made , despite the constant flood of propaganda such as this article , gives us hope .

    Please continue raising more barriers to commerce like your airline carbon tax based on this fraud . It will help speed the transfer of wealth to North Africa and other route alternatives who can well use the revenues .

    By :
    Bob Armstrong
    - Posted on :
    16/01/2012
  • There are few Europeans who subscribe to either the EU or the Euro. THe ones banging the drum are doing so to protect their comfy lifestyles and power. Joe European would like to go back to having their own country and currency.

    The Euro is collapsing and the EU will go with it. The end of the CO2 scam will hasten the process. Roll on cooler weather.

    By :
    Lawrie Ayres
    - Posted on :
    16/01/2012
  • The Soviet Union commited suicide by communism.

    The European Union is commiting suicide by eco-socialism.

    Shame on European politics.

    By :
    Heber Rizzo
    - Posted on :
    16/01/2012
  • Climate Action Commissioner Connie Hedegaard said in September she was “shocked that the political debate in the US is so far away from the scientific facts.”

    LOL, ever heard of climategate? Just check out the CCX quote at 7 cents when it closed down for lack of trading or the euro idiot scheme CKZ11, under 7 euro's per ton and heading down.

    By :
    Chris
    - Posted on :
    16/01/2012
  • Climate Action Commissioner Connie Hedegaard said in September she was “shocked that the political debate in the US is so far away from the scientific facts.”

    LOL, ever heard of climategate? Just check out the CCX quote at 7 cents when it closed down for lack of trading or the euro idiot scheme CKZ11, under 7 euro's per ton and heading down.

    By :
    Chris
    - Posted on :
    16/01/2012
  • The EU is run like some sort of junior school secret society by a self appointed elite, so it's hardly surprising its self destructing in all sorts of ways

    By :
    Eddy_M
    - Posted on :
    16/01/2012
  • The GOP candidates are not refusing to believe climate change only that humans/CO2 do not cause it. Climate change is natural and will continue whatever humans do. There is no data that proves that CO2 drives climate but plenty that show that CO2 does not.

    By :
    John Marshall
    - Posted on :
    16/01/2012
  • Very impressed at the (mainly US-based) trolling that this issue clearly promulgates. Also hats off to the commentators that manage to reference Gingrich's islamophobic statements. Clearly the precepts for a measured and balanced debate.

    By :
    Jaialaisa
    - Posted on :
    16/01/2012
  • Quite a few US trolls out I see - the question being - who funds them - probably Koch and similar outfits (who oddly also indulge in things such as carbon trading).

    By :
    Mike Parr
    - Posted on :
    16/01/2012
  • "Quite a few US trolls out I see...."

    Maybe, but there's also plenty of Europeans who think the EU sucks, me included. We don't need "funding" to think so either.

    By :
    Eddy_M
    - Posted on :
    16/01/2012
  • "Europeans who think the EU sucks" - a curiously American turn of phrase for a European.

    Most of the comments are childish (and repretitive) in the extreme with respect to AGW. Indeed children could make better points. The comments about Euro socialists ditto. Indeed the comments by what appears to be mostly US-based republican trolls tends to confirm my original point that both the candidates and their supporters seem to share the same "a few beers short of a six pack" affliction.

    By :
    Mike Parr
    - Posted on :
    16/01/2012
  • never heard "sucks" outside the US? You should get around more.

    "Most of the comments are childish (and repretitive)"

    That's not why one of your recent posts was censured then? (apropos of financial service taxes)

    By :
    Eddy_M
    - Posted on :
    16/01/2012
  • @ John Marshall

    How dare you ruin the game by trying to force that truthful common-sense square in a hysteria driven emotional round hole.

    By :
    Hugh K
    - Posted on :
    16/01/2012
  • GOP presidential candidates do not "deny climate change". What they rightly point to is that climate always changes and that the currently observed fluctuations are neither abnormal nor unprecedented nor must they be necessarily attributed to man-released CO2. They base their statements on good science--numerous peer reviewed papers can be quoted to support their position--unlike that of Mr Neslen and Brussel bureaucracts.

    Let's face it: Europe's obsession with CO2 is a ruse designed to make it easier for them to transit their economy away from fossil fuels, which are scarce in Western Europe, though not as scarce as is believed by some--there's plenty of shale gas in Britain, France and Germany. The transition is an unavoidably costly process made almost impossible by the industry's ease of moving their resources around the world: to China, US, India, Brazil, South Africa, Eastern Europe, wherever they get a better deal on labour and... energy. Without the US coming on-board, the attempt is doomed to fail and will only result in Europe's economic decline.

    And here is the crux of the matter: we, Americans, owe Europeans nothing. We're not going to handicap our own economy, reduce our standard of living, and distort our own market to make it easier for Europe to switch their economy to windmills. The US has fossil fuels in abundance: we have oil, coal, gas. Together with Canada and Mexico we have probably more than anyone else on the planet. The switch away from fossil fuels today or in the predictable future buys us nothing. This is the position of GOP candidates, of GOP party and of GOP supporters.

    By :
    Zdzislaw Meglicki
    - Posted on :
    16/01/2012
  • It seems the Climate Change gurus in Brussels are not best pleased with the Republican candidates for daring to challenge 'scientific facts'and 'defy the international scientific consensus'.Brussels and the I.P.C.C.have still not learned that claiming a very questionable 98% consensus to validate a theory in science is in itself unscientific.A similar European consensus proclaimed the Earth to be the centre of the Solar System,but Galileo proved them not only wrong but 100% wrong.Einstein once said that it would only take one to disprove a theory,no matter how many concurred with it.
    On the climate issue,Republican canditates are behaving like Mother Nature as neither will do what is expected of them.Brussels sees the Republican attitude as 'exasperating','shocking','concerning',and'difficult',but I see it as refreshing and hopeful that the world might finally have an honest and open debate on every aspect of the climate issue.

    By :
    Ruairi
    - Posted on :
    17/01/2012
  • "A similar European consensus proclaimed the Earth to be the centre of the Solar System,but Galileo proved them ... wrong......"

    Oh dear, America, a fact free zone. Galileo was European (not American) and the only people supporting the Earth-centric view was the Catholic Church mostly for ideological (and partly political) reasons. Most scientists (99.999% plus) support AGW. The ideologues in this case are US Repubicans. Twas ever thus with the US: any country/region that held a competing view (on politics or political systems) was seen as a threat.

    By :
    Mike Parr
    - Posted on :
    17/01/2012
  • Most scientists (99.999% plus) support AGW? Far from it. There are only a few dozen behind IPCC. Tens of thousands want nothing to do with this politically driven farce and object to it. See http://www.petitionproject.org/ for numbers and signatures--and these are only American scientists. But what really matters are more than a thousand papers published in peer reviewed journals that debunk various aspects of the AGW myth. You will find some of them listed at http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/10/peer-reviewed-papers-supporting.html, others at http://www.co2science.org/index.php and at http://www.nipccreport.org/.

    By :
    Zdzislaw Meglicki
    - Posted on :
    18/01/2012
  • The climate is always in a state of flux. Human beings cannot control it any more than an ant sitting on an elephant's back can steer the elephant. We are just there for the ride. The emphasis should be on adapting to whatever change comes our way instead of spending vast resources on a Quixotic exercise to thwart the presumed origins of such change. The emphasis on controlling carbon dioxide emissions stretches the imagination. The earth's atmosphere consists overwhelmingly of nitrogen (78%) and oxygen (21%). The remaining 1% is composed of trace gases, i.e., they exist only in minute proportions. Of this 1%, 0.93% is made of argon, leaving only 0.07% for all the rest. Carbon dioxide amounts to 0.033%, roughly half of these remaining trace gases. One would think Archimedes will have needed a lever extending beyond our galaxy to arrest climate change by controlling carbon dioxide emissions.

    Climate change control is a grand hoax perpetrated on a gullible public fired by the 'noble cause' of saving the planet, stoking delusions of grandeur. In reality, the agenda is to:
    a) curtail developing countries, especially large fast-growing ones like China and India, from claiming a greater share of remaining fossil fuels, ultimately keeping them well below the development status of the Western countries,
    b) make a new fortune out of selling technological gadgetry capable of meeting only a fraction of the massive demand for energy (the current global share of all so-called 'new renewable energy' like solar, wind, etc., is about 2% of total supply), and
    c) perpetrate another round of financial fraud by pitching such exotica as carbon emission certificates and their derivatives.

    To the extent children (and adults) have the freedom to think for themselves, it is necessary to inform them of both sides to this debate. After all, the original Greek meaning of the word heresy was choice of beliefs.

    By :
    K V Ramani
    - Posted on :
    20/01/2012
Background: 

The scientific consensus that humans are responsible for global warming is now compelling with over 90% probability, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a UN-backed scientific body.

Climate science has evolved greatly since the 1970s and models take into account carbon dioxide concentrations, solar radiation, land surface, ice sheet cover (and reflectivity), deserts (which also reflect radiation), forests (which absorb CO2), ocean currents, and more.

But uncertainties remain surrounding the extent of future temperature rises and the effects they will have on the Earth’s complex ecosystem. 

In large part, these will depend on measures taken now to keep greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere below 450 parts per million of CO2 equivalent.

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