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Published 27 August 2013

Danish opposition leader Lars Løkke Rasmussen has ratcheted up the pressure on Prime Minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt to launch a referendum on two of Denmark’s EU opt-outs by calling for one “at the earliest opportunity”.

Rasmussen, former prime minister and leader of the Liberals, the biggest opposition party, wants Denmark to get rid of its opt-outs on Defence and Justice via a "quick" referendum, possibly in May next year to coincide with the European elections.

Speaking in Norway earlier this month, Rasmussen put forward his demand, saying that he raised the question in private conversations with Thorning-Schmidt.

“The time has come; we need to deal with these opt-outs. The negative effects of especially the justice opt-out are so urgent that it would be irresponsible to keep pushing a referendum ahead. The condition is a broad support in Parliament and this is what I’m offering now,” Rasmussen told the daily Politiken.

Denmark currently has four opt-outs from common EU policies: security and defence; citizenship; freedom, security and justice; and the economic and monetary union.

Rasmussen proposed that the referendum could go alongside either the European Parliament elections in May 2014 or as part of a referendum on the EU patent court, which Denmark is likely to have at the beginning of next year. However, the liberal party leader does not want a referendum on the euro opt-out.

Sidelined

Danish Minister for Justice, Morten Bødskov, has often decried the disadvantages of Denmark's opt-out from Europol, the European law enforcement agency working on police cooperation.

While many EU member states are calling for closer cooperation, Denmark could risk being sidelined and decisively weakened in the fight against cross-border criminality, Bødskov argues.

In its work 2011 programme, the Danish government promised to hold a referendum on the two opt-outs during its first term. Since then Thorning-Schmidt has withdrawn the pledge.

While the prime minister and the newly-appointed European affairs minister, Nick Hækkerup, have refused to comment on the matter, Sofie Carsten Nielsen, the EU rapporteur of the Social Liberals, one of three parties in the Danish government, said the new signals were “enormously positive.”

“There is no one like the Social Liberals who are more interested in getting rid of the opt-outs. It’s extremely important for Denmark. It’s up to the prime minister to decide on the date. But we are interested. We are all ears to what Rasmussen is saying,” Nielsen said.

In parliament, Danish politicians are generally quite EU-friendly. But the widespread scepticism towards Europe among the Danish public makes it difficult for the government to carry out its ambition of getting closer to the EU's core, with any referendum on the matter likely to attract strong opposition.

Marlene Wind, a professor of EU studies at Copenhagen University, said Rasmussen’s announcement was "very important".

“This definitely moves a referendum on the opt-outs closer. We know that there has to be a broad support among the EU positive parties in order to get a positive outcome from the voters. A government can’t call for a referendum without clear backing from the opposition,” she said.  

Next steps: 
  • 22-25 May 2014: European Parliament elections.
Henriette Jacobsen

COMMENTS

  • The decision to abolish the Danish opt-outs will and should be made by the Danish people. As the Chair of the Peace & Neutrality Alliance in Ireland, the only country in the EU where there is a constitutional obligation for the political elite to ask the people via a referendum every time they transfer power to the EU, we have always sought to gain the military opt-out for the Irish people.
    As the UK and the French state seem absolutely determined to start yet another war, this time with Syria (their elites seem to have learned nothing from the Iraq war)
    a military opt-out from an increasingly militarised EU
    seems a better idea than ever for the Irish people and I suspect from public opinion polls in the UK at least, it is a view shared by many of the peoples of the EU

    By :
    Roger Cole
    - Posted on :
    27/08/2013
  • Every States in North-America should become independent!
    I don't want Europe to become an USSR like North-America or even like UK ....

    By :
    Nigel Farage
    - Posted on :
    27/08/2013
  • I wonder of the Nigel Farange who gave the last reply is the Nigel Farage who is the Leader of UKIP?

    Nations can be forged over generations. I for one, think that the United States of America is a nation, a diverse nation, but a nation all the same. As an Irishman I am not surprisingly supportive of many of the values of the American people (several Irish born people signed the US Declaration of Independence from the UK) as outlined in its Constitution. I am pleased that many no longer believe the warmongering values of its corporate media in that 70% do not support Obama's desire for yet another war, this time with Syria.

    By :
    Roger Cole
    - Posted on :
    27/08/2013
  • What kind of Union is this ??!!!
    Seems we have a pick-up choice like Mc Donald!
    What kind of Union is this ?!
    Would North-America acting like this? Of course not!

    The right way is to create a real federal democratic United Europe but not this one with permanently opts in and outs ann......

    Either do it right or no free trade with no single EMU anymore and go back to post WW2 era !

    I would tell member states what's their choice Either federal or full national !!

    EMU cannot work at this level!

    By :
    an european
    - Posted on :
    27/08/2013
  • So everybody can do what they want with their national MU..and let Americans us saying how we should bend on their knees with their powerful economy

    By :
    an european
    - Posted on :
    27/08/2013
  • Hi Roger Coyle

    United States is an Union of 50 States in which their Constitution States are protected from leaving the Union !!

    " We the People of the United States, in. Order to form a more perfect UNION, establish Justice, insure domestic. Tranquility, provi.....bla bla ...."

    See History Mr Coyle !!

    States can be named to country as well !

    By :
    Nigel Farage
    - Posted on :
    27/08/2013
  • Mr Coyle !

    13 States in North-America created that Constitution unanimously...
    "
    The Declaration of Independence is a statement adopted by the Continental Congress on July 4, 1776, which announced that the 13 American states , then at war with Great Britain, regarded themselves as independent states, and no longer a part of the British Empire. Instead they formed a union that would become a new nation—the United States of America "

    By :
    Nigel Farage
    - Posted on :
    27/08/2013
  • In response to "A European" in regard to the US, I can only repeat that the to me the US is a nation, a diverse nation, but still, a nation. It however evolved over hundreds of years, and forged in war against UK, the Spanish, and the native Indians to name but a few. In fact, its devotion to endless war will mean its downfall, for with only 3% of the worlds population, even it, for all its wealth, just does not have the resources for perpetual war. The European Union is not a nation. There is no demos. For one to develop it would also take hundreds of years and a good few wars, and quite simply, for example, Irish people do not want to die once more for GB or any other imperial state like France, etc. I strongly suspect the Greeks would not be to keen to die for the Germans either. In fact, its the fact that the EU is a collection of different nation states, with a different demos in each state that would cause it to blow apart if the EU political caste get more and more out of touch with their own people, and as they turn to the National Front in France or UKIP in England. The EU is and should be a partnership of democratic states. PANA advocates that it should have a military dimension either. Since the EU elite are trying to build it, Ireland like Denmark should have a opt out. We were part of a Union, the British Union, that sent its Battle Groups all over the world for generations.Once in our history is enough

    By :
    Roger Cole
    - Posted on :
    27/08/2013
  • A nation now yes! Because 13 States-Gov begun to the these to a nation with a federal district Washington in 1778 !
    This in contrary prevented war in North-America !
    I haven't heard since this year 1779 they had a bloody war!!!!

    The Europeans had massive wars only until after WW2 ! since then Europeans hadn't war at all!
    If Europeans want to be a champion in economic terms like the U.S. they have to go at least to a federal way because the EMU doesn't work without some federal prerequisites! That's simply a rule for federalism !
    Countries still will remain Countries and would not interfere culture! This will the change that name E.U. to United Europe or European Republic or similar .. there are a lot -> Referendum for people..
    There are different system of federalism ! And Europe should get one to because WE the Europeans could then ELECT democratically an EU-President !

    Most people want this than a permanently non elected Hermann V. R.

    I hope Mr Cole you understand my point of view!

    By :
    an european
    - Posted on :
    27/08/2013
  • Correction:

    "A nation now yes! Because 13 States-Gov begun to form these states to a nation with a federal district Washington in 1778"

    By :
    an european
    - Posted on :
    27/08/2013
  • Dear European,
    I do understand you point of view. I have no problem with economic cooperation between the states of the EU but I do not support the EU having a military dimension, and if other states want to have one that is their decision.
    In the case of the US, colonisation began at the start of the 17th century, so the formation of the US was the consequence of a very long process. It did not pop into existence in 1776.
    Maybe I misunderstood you but I am sure you must be aware they had a civil war in the mid 19th century, and of course many of the states in the EU while they did not go to war between themselves have taken part in numerous wars abroad and several, including the UK & France are planning a new one in Syria.

    By :
    Roger Cole
    - Posted on :
    27/08/2013
  • This a possibly a question for the Danes and the Danes only. The busybodies should butt out!

    By :
    George Mc
    - Posted on :
    27/08/2013
  • @ Roger Coyle
    Indeed 1860-65! and finally the slavery was abolished by the federal state in Wash.D.C.!

    When it comes to Europe "Southern" member-States pay a hight depth interests rates while "Northern" especially Germany have negative interests rates
    then I can consider this a kind of economic victim slavery and this does damaage not only the southern economy but the global european without an equalized depth rate with a redemption pooling this will worsen the economic situation!
    And WE the european people should get the opportunity to elect democratically a real Eu-President OVER the "Council"!

    Either they do it right!!Or full back to "everybody's soup" with end of single market and dissolution of common policies and thus will surely conduct to extremely high tension as or to be written i a new war chapter in the historybook ! Thus is in reality not in our interests !

    The only time we lived in peace without fighting each other during 300 years was during the roman republic empire Res Pvblica Romana!

    EL PLURIBUS UNUM ;-)

    By :
    United Alliance
    - Posted on :
    27/08/2013
  • when you're talking about the E.U. institutions !
    They are a far less than the U.s.'s are and to be keen they don't have never that "military dimension" !

    By :
    an european
    - Posted on :
    28/08/2013
  • @Roger Cole

    when you're talking about the E.U. institutions !
    They are a far less than the U.s.'s are! Never have that such a "military dimension" !

    By :
    an european
    - Posted on :
    28/08/2013
  • El Pluribus Unum clearly has a sense of humour, how else could you explain how he beings his post with a reminder about the final abolition of slavery in the USA and praise for a Roman Empire built on slavery. European is of course correct when he says the military at the disposal of the USA is far greater that the EU. In fact at the moment the UK and France are making it clear that their loyalty is to the US and not the EU by their decision to declare an illegal war on Syria, as part of its decision to destroy the Syrian State, liquidate the Syrian Christians and instal the Al-Qaeda led rebels, very much the policy they had in Afghanistan in the 1970's. Nevertheless the EU is stradily building a military dimension via its Battle Groups, and NATO has recognised the EU as a strategic partner. In regard to the Danish opt-out, I agree with George Mc and said so in an early post. As an Irishman I am simply arguing that Ireland should also have an opt-out from the EU military dimension.

    By :
    Roger Cole
    - Posted on :
    28/08/2013
  • @ Roger Cole

    Quote"El Pluribus Unum clearly has a sense of humour Unquote
    I suspect you are referring to United Alliance.

    Quote
    As an Irishman I am simply arguing that Ireland should also have an opt-out from the EU military dimension. Unquote

    So it is okay for Ireland to have opt outs but when the UK wants opt outs it is regarded as cherry picking.
    Personally I have no problem with the Irish having an opt out as like a lot of the smaller states in the EU they really are not a serious player. Fishery protection is done well by the Irish Navy and some would say that they do a good job when they wear the blue beret of the UN. When the going gets tough do remember that an awful lot of Irish have joined the UK military and served with distinction.

    Quote
    In fact at the moment the UK and France are making it clear that their loyalty is to the US and not the EU by their decision to declare an illegal war on Syria, as part of its decision to destroy the Syrian State, liquidate the Syrian Christians and instal the Al-Qaeda led rebels, very much the policy they had in Afghanistan in the 1970's. Unquote

    Roger you do like your sweeping statements, where, in one long sentence you sum up EU, French and UK foreign policy. Remarkable! I have listened to the news and as of yet no one has declared war on Syria. Maybe you have the benefit of foresight and if so I would be grateful if you could give me the winning numbers for the next weeks Euro Lottery. If not I would be grateful if you could flesh out your thought process as to why the French (of all people) have become so pro USA and anti EU.

    By :
    George Mc
    - Posted on :
    28/08/2013
  • George Mc
    I have no problem with the UK or indeed any other state having opt outs. They already exist in regard to the Euro, for example.
    The US, the UK and the French have made it clear they intend to go to war with Syria by bombing it in total contravention of international law.
    You are of course quite correct in saying that a lot of Irish have joined the British Army. In fact throughout the 19th century over 30% of the British Army were Irish.
    You also might know that in 1918 the decisive majority of those elected to the British Parliament from Ireland did so on the basis of leaving the UK and establishing an Irish Republic. Now both the UK and the Republic are members of the EU and over the years more and more power have been taken away from the democratic parliaments of each of the individual states and transferred to the EU institutions and the EU ruling caste. So whatever differences the British and Irish people have had in the past, those of us who believe in national democracy should work together to seek a return of powers to their national democracies.

    By :
    Roger Cole
    - Posted on :
    28/08/2013
  • @ Roger Cole
    Quote
    The US, the UK and the French have made it clear they intend to go to war with Syria by bombing it in total contravention of international law.
    Unquote

    Roger International law (or any law) is only as good as the people that back it up. You should know as I do that the United Nations are incapable of backing anything up unless the permanent members of the UN agree. Our Russian friends will never allow anything to be done which is against their national interest. As you may know the only warm water port that Russian has is the Syrian port city of Tartus which is too strategic to give up. It is also a bit rich to complain about possible action that may be taken by France, UK and USA when the government of Syria has committed genocide and war crimes against its own citizens. Personally I have no idea and I am not qualified to say what the best course of action should be regarding Syria (probably like most people on this site). I would say that whatever happens, the last thing we need is for other states to be dragged into the conflict (Iran and Israel).

    In a previous post you mentioned EU battle groups which you should be aware are all talk and no puff. Clearly this is because there is no will to commit forces or equipment (assuming they had any worth a carrot) outside NATO. France and the UK account for nearly half of EU military spend and along with Norway (non EU), Denmark and Poland are probably the only forces worth talking about. I include Germany in that assessment just in case you think it is an omission. We will see what happens in December when the Commission makes a big play to start controlling and influencing defence,

    I am aware of Irish history which has not always been a happy one. I would also say that I would be happy to see the UK leave the EU with a backstop of serious powers being repatriated to our Parliament and therefore would agree with your position.

    By :
    George Mc
    - Posted on :
    28/08/2013
  • George Mc
    There has clearly been a change in the UK by the Cameron government since the last post. Opposition to UK involvement by the British people themselves as seen in public opinion polls together with political opposition led by UKIP and the Stop the War Coalition outside Parliament and Labour and Tory MP's inside, forced Cameron to wait for the UN inspection report before he led the UK to yet another war, this time on the side of the Al Qaeda led Syrian rebels.
    The UN is not a perfect organisation, after all, it is made up of human beings, but it absolutely clear that it does represent the all the people of the world via their national states in a way that France, the UK and the US do not (the represent 5% of the world's population)
    The EU Battle Groups (see www.pana.ie) have not been used to date,and are relatively small. Nevertheless the do represent the desire of the EU ruling elite to have their own army, as distinct from an Irish or British Army.
    My core point about the UK and Ireland is that whatever our differences in the past (there have been a few) there are people in both countries who believe in and support national democracies. Those people ow have a great deal more in common with each other than they have with those who continually advocate that more and more power be transferred away from the national democracies to the EU and its institutions.

    By :
    Roger Cole
    - Posted on :
    29/08/2013
  • @ Roger Cole

    Quote
    My core point about the UK and Ireland is that whatever our differences in the past (there have been a few) there are people in both countries who believe in and support national democracies. Those people ow have a great deal more in common with each other than they have with those who continually advocate that more and more power be transferred away from the national democracies to the EU and its institutions.
    Unquote

    Lets agree on this and agree to differ on the rest.
    Cheers

    By :
    George Mc
    - Posted on :
    29/08/2013
  • No previously free nation should consider giving up any of its hard won opt outs, in fact the sooner the UK opts out of the eussr entirely the better.

    By :
    Barry Davies
    - Posted on :
    30/08/2013
  • I suspect that a referendum on getting rid of these opt-outs is an ill judged way to go about it .
    My belief is that the Danish people will not vote to end opt-outs of Defence or Justice .
    Pro EUs are trying to force a union , but European unity will only be achieved by the will of the people . I do not believe the people of Europe want the kind of EUSSR envisaged by politicians .

    By :
    David Barneby
    - Posted on :
    31/08/2013
  • David,
    The decision of the leader of the major opposition party and ex-PM to strongly advocate the abolition of the Danish opt outs, including those on the Euro and Defence,
    is just another example of supporters of the destruction of national democracy exists not just in Ireland & the UK. Those of us in whatever state we live in, have to work more closely together if those who hate and despise the democratic values of their own people are to be defeated

    By :
    Roger Cole
    - Posted on :
    02/09/2013
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Prime Minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt and Lars Løkke Rasmussen
Background: 

Denmark obtained four opt-outs from the Maastricht Treaty following the treaty's initial rejection in a 1992 referendum.

The opt-outs are outlined in the Edinburgh Agreement and concern the Monetary Union (EMU), the Common Security and Defence Policy (CSDP), Justice and Home Affairs (JHA) and the Citizenship of the European Union.

With these opt-outs, the Danes accepted the treaty in a second referendum held in 1993. In 2000, Danes rejected a referendum on adopting the euro.

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