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Italian Five Star MP: EU is 'unsustainable' in its current form

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Published 01 March 2013, updated 04 March 2013

INTERVIEW / A newly-elected parliamentarian for the Italian Five Star Movement (5SM), led by former comic Beppe Grillo, told EurActiv that the EU suffered from serious structural flaws, which are "unsustainable" in the long run. The party wants to open a debate on Italy's euro membership.

The EU has increasingly become a sanction-tool for countries that are incapable of respecting directives, Giuseppe Brescia told EurActiv in an interview yesterday (28 February).

Brescia, a 5SM campaigner and new member of the Chamber of Deputies, clarified his opinion about the EU by insisting that the process of European integration, in its current form, is untenable for his party and Italy.

Grillo, the Five Star Movement leader, has commented strongly on Italy’s problematic relationship with the EU and the euro currency in recent years.

The 24-25 February election left Italy’s political system in deadlock, as electoral groups seem incapable of forming a stable government coalition. The single largest party remains the 5SM, which won 108 seats in the Chamber of Deputies and 53 seats in the Senate.

The views of elected deputies and senators from the 5SM remain unclear, as the movement has a less centralised governing structure, while having voiced various individual opinions on Italy’s future in the eurozone.

5SM 'not anti-European'

“We continue thinking that the principal function of the EU remains one of sanctions, while the emphasis is disproportionately put on not being able to respect directives, instead of values of European community," said Brescia.

Insisting on the movement not being anti-European, he noted that the current EU structure should be regarded as "unsustainable" as a result of financial issues in Italy and abroad, including a growing and unjustifiable government bond "spread".

Italy’s economic situation has faced rising government bond disparity exacerbated by interest rates fixed for all eurozone countries by the European Central Bank.

“The Five Star Movement isn’t anti-European per se, but the current structure of the EU simply can’t last for very much longer," he said.

“Our politics can’t be shaped by the Italian bond spread. Italy has a frighteningly high public debt that continues to grow. 5SM has also emphasised on Italy’s previous leaders’ relationship with the EU, which they claim have legitimised several indefensible and corrupt infrastructure projects in Italy."

“Our old political class use the EU to legitimise absurd projects, including the TAV railway between Turin and Lyon, which has already been dubbed as a waste of money in the rest of Europe,” said Brescia.  

Five Star wants a debate on Italy euro membership

The 5MS’s official programme contains a mixture of policies ranging from environmental protection to increased education spending, as well as a controversial proposal to hold a referendum on the euro.

“Before creating the euro, we should have shaped Europe," said Brescia. “We should have created a solid base, made up of shared fiscal politics. On this point, the 5SM wants to open a debate and allow for Italians to chose whether to continue with the euro currency."

European markets have faced turbulence in recent days as a result of the unstable political situation in Italy. Further instability is expected if the 5SM allows for a referendum to take place, putting the eurozone’s third largest economy at risk of leaving Europe’s shared currency.

“Obviously we wouldn’t leave the eurozone immediately, we would have to change the constitution to introduce a referendum proposition. That’s a very long process,” said Brescia. “A solution could be to go towards a euro at two speeds and then in 10 years reintegrate Italy into the common currency again.”

Despite the fears of facing instability and a populist party accounting for around 25% of the Italian electorate, election experts have noted that the 5SM reflects a more pragmatic policy than expected.

“Our demographic studies conducted over the past weeks [show] the electorate of the 5SM does not look very revolutionary at all. Some votes were pouched from the extreme left and the extreme right, but realistically the grand majority of their voters are more moderate,” said Professor Piergiorgio Corbetta, director of research at the Cattaneo Institute in Bologna.

“Having looked at their previous track record on a regional level, I would say that it went ahead in a stable fashion with budgets being approved and laws being passed,” he told EurActiv.

“We should not forget that this is not a protest movement, as it accounts for way over 10%, which is normally the threshold for extreme voters. We might therefore expect an instable government, but a more straight forward policy line than expected,” he said.

Next steps: 
  • 15 March: First Parliament meeting
  • 15 April: Parliament and regional delegates meet to elect the new President of Italy
  • 15 May: End of mandate of the current president of Italy, Giorgio Napolitano
Samuel Doveri Vesterbye

COMMENTS

  • Not a protest movement?

    Abolition of the provinces
    Abolition of electoral refunds
    Amalgamation of municipalities under 5,000 residents
    Compulsory teaching of and examinations on the Constitution for all public representatives
    Two term limit for each public representatives
    Abolition of privileges for public representatives (for example: pension after only two years)
    Prohibit parliamentarians from working in other professions during their terms
    Salary of parliamentarians aligned to the average salary
    Prevention of overlapping of offices for MPs (for example, one could not be both a mayor and an MP)
    Ineligibility of convicted criminals for public office
    Direct participation in any public meeting by citizens via the web
    Introduction of a true class action
    Abrogative and propositive Referendum without quorum

    Sounds like a protest movement to me, and with 25.5% of the vote, theres a lot of people protesting.

    So listen to them!

    By :
    Tony Ball
    - Posted on :
    01/03/2013
  • The efforts by Gianroberto Casaleggio to eliminate political parties in between electorates and governing institutions is new in 21st century, though not new in the history of political ideas. Asimov Arifov, political scientist, was quick to point it in his writings: http://asimovarifov.wordpress.com/2013/02/26/beppe-grillo-a-reluctant-kingmaker-in-rome/

    By :
    Jennifer Bloom
    - Posted on :
    01/03/2013
  • "EU: Italian Five Star Party in current form is 'unsustainable'"

    Italian Five Star face stark European reality.

    By :
    Jamie Thorogood
    - Posted on :
    01/03/2013
  • 5SM talk a lot of sense - it is possible to be pro-European, but anti the Euro (EZ) and the present EU set-up. Almost half the EZ countries are in difficulties, and it's clear that those countries who decided to opt out made the correct choice. The problem is that the office-holders in Brussels will fight very hard to maintain the status quo, not for good reasons but so that the eventual failure does not happen 'on their watch' - kicking the can down the road all the time. This means that the failure will be more damaging and messy than it needs to be. So Tony Ball is right - listen to them!

    By :
    Robert Skailes
    - Posted on :
    02/03/2013
  • I would agree the current EU setup is unsustainable and fundamentally flawed, and the treaties signed were badly done and need re-adjustment .
    In the same train of thought the current world economic model is also flawed and unsustainable.
    On one side ,world politicians are for a green movement reducing pollution etc , yet fail to realise that the earths resources are finite and the current economic model cannot be sustained .
    As any countries have found recently , citizen power is underestimated by politicians , many will get a big shock in the future , especially in Europe .
    There has to be legal accountability by politicians for their decisions , just losing the next election etc is not sufficient .
    The other problem overlooked by Europe is the number of autonomous regions who are now asking for total autonomy , being fedup with national governments .
    To win over citizens in Europe , there has to be a reduction in EU costs , and a total transparancy , where even lobbying will be put into question .

    By :
    Paul Rice
    - Posted on :
    03/03/2013
  • Other things need to be done in Europe , limit the number of terms politicians can have , and severly reduce the so called pension they receive .
    There are too many EU politicians who have been out of contact with the real world for so long ,they cannot understand the citizens .

    By :
    Paul Rice
    - Posted on :
    03/03/2013
  • The 5 Star movement may have its own agenda , not all of which may be generally appreciated .
    There is no way the EU can succeed the way it is currently going . Really the Biggest need is to get rid of the Euro , return every country to their own currency ; that is the only way to re create competitivity and an economic balance between European countries .

    By :
    David Barneby
    - Posted on :
    27/04/2013
Five Star Movement leader Beppe Grillo. Max Rossi/Reuters
Background: 

On 21 December 2012, Mario Monti resigned as prime minister due to the withdrawal of coalition endorsement from the centre-right People of Freedom party.

With waning support for the technocratic Monti cabinet and the dissolution of parliament in December 2012, the Italian constitution demanded that elections were held within 70 days.

Based on proportional representation and electorally divided into 26 districts for the Chamber of Deputies and 20 regions for the Senate, Italy elected 945 members into the lower and upper houses of parliament on 24-25 of February 2013. The election resulted in a slim majority for the centre-left Democratic Party in the Chamber of Deputies, while the centre-right dominate the Senate. The outcome has frozen Italy’s political system, as electoral blocks seem unable to form a stable coalition.

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