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Austrian chancellor breaks ranks with Germany on Greece

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Published 27 August 2012

Greece should get more time to repay its debts provided that it sticks to reforms and savings targets agreed with the European Union, Austrian Chancellor Werner Faymann said, taking a softer line than neighbour Germany, which has so far opposed any delay.

Greece's future and whether it stays in the eurozone is expected to be shaped by a series of crunch meetings in September and a progress report from European Union and International Monetary Fund inspectors on public sector cuts required in exchange for billions in aid.

Germany and France both said after recent meetings with Greek Prime Minister Antonis Samaras that Greece's leaders must show their commitment to reform, and Germany is showing little inclination to consider any delay.

But Austria and others in the eurozone's stronger economies have often provided advance warning throughout three years of crisis of the line the bloc's leaders will finally take.

"I see quite a good chance that we will arrive at an outcome with Greece that the Greeks stick to their agreements with the EU but in return get more time for the repayment," Faymann, who is also chairman of the Social Democratic Party of Austria (SPÖ), told newspaper Österreich in an interview published on Sunday (26 August).

"The most important thing is that the Greeks stick to the reforms and savings targets agreed with us. If that is guaranteed, I am in favour of a delay in the repayment," he said, adding that the delay could be two or three years.

German position

German Economy Minister Philipp Rösler reaffirmed Germany's stance in an interview with broadcaster ZDF on Sunday.

"The request of the Greeks for a half year or even two years more [to implement their reforms] cannot work because it is not only a question of time ... Everybody must recognise that time always means also money," he said.

"If the reforms are not undertaken there can be no further aid," Rösler said in comments that echoed those of German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schäuble in an interview published in the Tagesspiegel newspaper.

Faymann said he was optimistic that Greece would stay in the eurozone, but said the scale of the crisis and of unemployment in Greece was so great that the country would not manage to do so without a repayment delay.

"But nothing is decided yet," he said. "After the troika's report in the middle of September we will see clearly."

Austrian Finance Minister Maria Fekter, a member of the conservative People's Party that governs in coalition with the Social Democrats, argued against giving Greece more time.

"To extend the time again now without changing something is not on," she told Switzerland's NZZ am Sonntag newspaper.

In the meantime, German Chancellor Merkel cautioned politicians in her coalition against talking up the possibility of a Greek exit from the eurozone, urging them to weigh their words "very carefully".

Merkel allies, particularly the Bavarian Christian Social Union (CSU), have stepped up criticism of Greece in recent weeks, with senior CSU lawmaker Alexander Dobrindt saying at the weekend that he expected Athens to be out of the euro zone next year.

"My plea is that everyone weigh their words very carefully," she said.

EurActiv.com with Reuters

COMMENTS

  • Strangely, no EU politicians appear to have mentioned anything about the effect of fractional reserve banking on the economies of the Eurozone. Maybe they haven’t yet read a very recent paper by two research economists at the IMF, titled “The Chicago Plan Revisited”. It is available for free download at www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/wp/2012/wp12202.pdf
    The US documentary film-maker Bill Still has made a 6-minute documentary video on this paper: www.positivemoney.org.uk/2012/08/bill-still-on-the-chicago-plan-revisited/
    ‘Full-reserve banking’ is a proposal that can end the recession, reduce personal and national debt, reduce inequality, and ensure that toxic banks can be allowed to fail with no cost to the taxpayer.
    The Chicago Plan was put forward in 1933 by the prominent USA economist Irving Fisher at the depth of the Great Depression and has been endorsed, in one form or another, by experts such as Milton Friedman, James Tobin, John Kay, Martin Wolf of the UK’s Financial Times and Sir Mervyn King, governor of the Bank of England. It has numerous benefits, while the main arguments against it are based on misconceptions.
    In “The Chicago Plan Revisited”, the authors find strong support for all four of the benefits of full reserve banking as advocated by the economist Irving Fisher in the Chicago Plan, using state-of-the-art economic modelling:
    (1) Much better control of a major source of business cycle fluctuations, sudden increases and contractions of bank credit and of the supply of bank-created money.
    (2) Complete elimination of bank runs.
    (3) Dramatic reduction of the (net) public debt.
    (4) Dramatic reduction of private debt, as money creation no longer requires simultaneous debt creation.
    In the economic situation we are in today it would be a massive improvement if we could achieve even only one of these four benefits… Imagine all of them at once!
    And on top of these huge benefits the IMF researchers were able to establish that the advantages go even beyond…
    One additional advantage is large steady state output gains due to the removal or reduction of multiple distortions, including interest rate risk spreads, distortionary taxes, and costly monitoring of macroeconomically unnecessary credit risks.
    Another advantage is the ability to drive steady state inflation to zero in an environment where liquidity traps do not exist…
    There is a solution to the debt crisis; there is an alternative to the austerity! This is what the newspapers should be full of today!
    By the way, it is perfectly feasible to have a free trade zone without a currency union or a political union. Independent sovereign states are free to organise themselves into such free trade zones should they so wish. If Greece is less productive than Germany over time, this would be reflected in the Drachma falling in value against the Deutschmark, meaning that wages and salaries in Greece would decline relative to wages and salaries in Germany. The cost to the independent nation states of Europe of having a whole bunch of businesses earning their profits from currency trading pales into insignificance compared with the crippling costs of having European bureaucrats and a European parliament and a European central bank. Think about it!

    By :
    PJM
    - Posted on :
    27/08/2012
  • Very well explained
    But Europe need an real federal Constiution ! Not Half without an real Constitution!
    That's why after monetary Union we need an economy and political Union! The rest is tinkering!

    No matter wich laws the constiution will have Maybe german or french or mixed of nation states...

    going backwards is the wrong path!
    Going further is the right on.

    By :
    an european
    - Posted on :
    27/08/2012
  • Unfortunately the simple economics of keeping a roof over ones head for a family applies and when the family has too much debt, it loses it. That is what happens in the real world and not many have a rich uncle to bail them out and save the situation. But even then, invariably the rich uncle requires that the debt will be paid back to him and requests how this will be performed and that the debt will in reality indeed be paid back. If this cannot be performed in theory, the uncle will if he is mindful of throwing good money after bad, use his head and say it is a fool’s errand to do this. Better to keep the good money in the bank in other words than to lose it eventually, for only a fool would do that. But when it comes to the EU and because it is not the bureaucrat’s money (it is the money of the citizens of the EU, you and me), they simply pour it down the drain to the eventual sewerage works that we call bankruptcy. No-one in their right mind would do this even though I hear that if Greece fails it will be a disaster. But a disaster for who is the big question? For it already is a disaster to start with for the people of Europe having increased its Greek debt by over a quarter of a trillion dollars with no hope of it ever being paid back. Now Merkel and the Austrian finance minister in different ways wish to add even further debt on the citizens of the EU with no hope again of a payback. This thinking of the madhouse must be stopped and reality once again restored. Indeed the Eastern economies must be laughing all the way to future bank of economic domination when all we do is increase the debt of every EU citizen in a foolish attempt to save face and something that is inevitable. In this respect the EU is in a downward spiral of unparalleled debt combined with unparalleled trade deficits and there can be only one outcome - The standard of living of the people of the European Union goes down every year with this mindset of economic unparalleled destruction. Indeed these economics of the madhouse will eventually be the total undoing of Europe and where it will take us to a subservient society under the economic power of the East in less than 25 years now. By then we shall look back and say how stupid we were and ask why we did not build our pan European economy on the strengths that we still had. By then our strengths will have become ineffective in the world order of the 2030s and therefore the lives of the next generation will have to suffer like no other for a very long time indeed.

    We simply have to start building the pan-EU creative infrastructure for the 500 million citizens of the EU so that we can literally fight back. But where it has to be said that the insane thinking that prevails never understands what this creative infrastructure is and why it is so vital for the future of the people of Europe.

    Dr David Hill
    Chief Executive
    World Innovation Foundation
    United Kingdom – Switzerland

    By :
    Dr David Hill - World Innovation Foundation
    - Posted on :
    27/08/2012
  • And now wee need the Bancunion more than ever with Depth compensation system !
    The 8 Head of Karlsruhe should immediately ratify it and comes to force quickest as it can!
    Maybe the German Institutional court should go to EU Parlianemt should to resolve the matter there!
    There is no time for proposal or Pussyfooting around!
    Not only Germany but All Constitutional Court of All Nations should resolve to EU Parliament the Problems there!And Rebuilding what Europe was Intended for After WW2 ! "Réunification" similar as the Philadelphia convent!
    And creating an real EU Constitution!
    And if done, democracially elect the President!

    Or Hollande , Merkel , Barrosso, and all other politicians will never get a pardon from high depth countries...

    Mistakes were made and it takes too f...ing long time indeed...
    Fagar will laughing seeing desintegrating the EU.......

    By :
    Daughter of Elysium!
    - Posted on :
    27/08/2012
Werner Faymann
Background: 

Key to restoring credibility will be Greece's attempt to push through €11.5 billion of cuts over the next two years as demanded under the €130 bailout - which Prime Minister Antonis Samaras's administration has yet to fully piece together after weeks of wrangling.

Samaras and his moderate leftist and Socialist allies have broadly agreed on the measures, but the government is still struggling to nail down the final cuts amid howls of protest over plans to slash pensions and put civil servants in a so-called labour reserve before laying them off.

European leaders say any decisions on Greece will depend on the report by inspectors from the "Troika" - the European Commission, the European Central Bank and the International Monetary Fund.

Next September, the Troika  will determine whether Athens gets the next tranche of its bailout. If not, Greece will be bankrupt.

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