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Economists see eurozone recession for 2012

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Published 17 August 2012, updated 21 August 2012

The eurozone will slip into recession and won't grow until 2013, according a poll of economists who also don't expect any new aggressive policy response from the European Central Bank.

The latest monthly survey results of the Reuters poll, released yesterday (16 August), follow news that the eurozone just barely skirted recession in the first half of the year, with only Germany growing in the three months to June and France, the second largest eurozone economy, flatlining.

Taken together with a worsening outlook for the eurozone's most vulnerable economies in a Reuters poll published last week, there appears little expectation for an end to the euro crisis or any prospects for a meaningful economic rebound.

Adding to the deeper concerns, Finnish Foreign Minister Erkki Tuomioja said in the Daily Telegraph published today (17 August) that European leaders must prepare for the looming breakup of the eurozone.

A modest 25 basis point interest rate cut to 0.50% expected from the European Central Bank in September will not be enough to stop the rot and would be largely symbolic, as the rate is already so close to zero and can do little to stimulate borrowing.

While ECB President Mario Draghi has promised he will do whatever it takes to save the euro, and large-scale purchases of short-term Spanish and Italian debt are likely later this year, there is nothing on the horizon that economists see as pointing to vigorous recovery.

No crisis ‘end-game’

Rubén Segura-Cayuela, economist at Bank of America Merrill Lynch, said that the "absence of a clear end-game or roadmap to an end-game" for the eurozone debt crisis was holding back consumers and stopping businesses from investing or hiring.

The Reuters poll predicted the eurozone economy, which shrank by 0.2% in the second quarter, will contract by the same amount in the current quarter. That is slightly deeper than the 0.1% contraction forecast in the July Reuters poll.

But that relatively mild slide masks much more severe downturns in Italy and Spain, the third and fourth largest eurozone economies, and an outright collapse in Greece, where nearly one quarter of the population is now out of work.

Economists are getting progressively more confident of an official recession in the third quarter, with the range of forecasts narrowing to just 0.1% growth to a 0.8% contraction. Only one economist predicted growth.

The Reuters poll found the vast majority of economists did not expect the central bank to try to cap Spanish and Italian bond yields as has been suggested by some, nor will it resort to buying anything other than government bonds on the open market.

Poll respondents were split on the likelihood of another long-term refinancing operation like the ECB conducted in December and then in February, essentially hosing the markets down with over one trillion euros of three-year cash.

What has changed over the past several months is the perception of Greece's future in the eurozone. Forty-five of 64 economists polled in August expect Greece to remain in the currency bloc in the next 12 months, compared with 35 of 64 economists in a similar poll in May.

Finland’s exit plan

Meanwhile, Tuomioja said Finnish officials have prepared for the break up of the single currency with an "operational plan for any eventuality."

"There are no rules on how to leave the euro, but it is only a matter of time. Either the south or the north will break away because this currency straitjacket is causing misery for millions and destroying Europe's future," Tuomioja is quoted as saying in the Daily Telegraph.

"It is a total catastrophe. We are going to run out of money the way we are going. But nobody in Europe wants to be first to get out of the euro and take all the blame," he said.

Tuomioja, a veteran minister in one of the eurozone's four AAA-rated countries, said the breakup of the euro could make the European Union stronger.

"It is not something that anybody is advocating in Finland, let alone the government. But we have to be prepared. The break up of the euro does not mean the end of the European Union. It could make the EU function better," he said.

EurActiv.com with Reuters

COMMENTS

  • This is typical of Economists: talk the Economy down.

    They should be doing ther opposite, and talking the economy up.

    This is why we are in such a mess.

    By :
    Victoria
    - Posted on :
    17/08/2012
  • Finnish Foreign Minister Erkki Tuomioja said "It is a total catastrophe. We are going to run out of money the way we are going. But nobody in Europe wants to be first to get out of the euro and take all the blame."
    The reason that "we are going to run out of money" is that, in the EU, as in the rest of the world (with the possible exception of China) money is created only as debt, when people and companies take out loans from banks. When there is a financial crisis, as member nations of the EU and indeed almost all the nations of the world are now experiencing, people and companies lose confidence, and banks lose confidence that people and companies can pay the interest on their loans, and pay back the principal, so the rate of lending slows down. At the same time, people and companies that lose confidence in future economic growth pay back their loans, and, by the very nature of the present debt-based money system, when the rate that existing loans are being repaid exceeds the rate that new loans are being taken out, the total quantity of money in circulation decreases, and voila, we have the recession that we’re in right now.
    However, life does not have to be like this. Two economists conducting research at the IMF have on 12 August 2012 published a discussion paper (URL: http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/wp/2012/wp12202.pdf) that shows that a money and banking system based on “The Chicago Plan”, first proposed way back in 1936, after the Great Depression, would be a much more efficient and stable system than the one we have at present.
    Here is the ABSTRACT for the paper:
    At the height of the Great Depression a number of leading U.S. economists advanced a proposal for monetary reform that became known as the Chicago Plan. It envisaged the separation of the monetary and credit functions of the banking system, by requiring 100% reserve backing for deposits. Irving Fisher (1936) claimed the following advantages for this plan:
    (1) Much better control of a major source of business cycle fluctuations, sudden increases and contractions of bank credit and of the supply of bank-created money.
    (2) Complete elimination of bank runs.
    (3) Dramatic reduction of the (net) public debt.
    (4) Dramatic reduction of private debt, as money creation no longer requires simultaneous debt creation. We study these claims by embedding a comprehensive and carefully calibrated model of the banking system in a DSGE model of the U.S. economy. We find support for all four of Fisher's claims. Furthermore, output gains approach 10 percent, and steady state inflation can drop to zero without posing problems for the conduct of monetary policy.

    By :
    PJM
    - Posted on :
    17/08/2012
  • Nothing unusual here as the EU is not an innovative institution, but one that stagnates innovation by its very workings and mindset. In this respect there is no real applied thinking in the true sense of the meaning and where the European commission is a moribund organization of bureaucrats with no real ability to transform economies, only to manage their decline.

    Not until these people realise that the EU's only saving grace is to create the innovative pan-EU creative infrastructure where all citizens of Europe can participate and not just the elitist system that has got us into this horrible mess and will gets us even deeper into this decline year-on-year, will the people of Europe stand a chance of a better life. Indeed our future generations without this new realism within our technocrats will have little to look forward too over the next 20 years where after the real crunch time in world politics and world events take centre stage. For it is clear now that on our present economic thinking and path, the EU will definitely disintegrate around 2030 (no matter how much debt is created for EU citizens in trying to save the EU in the meantime) and then all hell will be let loose on the world altar of unsustainable economic foundations. Not just me saying this now but eminent researchers at MIT and the Royal Society in the UK. Therefore if the EU does not start to realise and recognise this fact, we in the EU are on a hiding to nowhere and we despatch our children to unprecedented hardship and sheer suffering in their lives.
    Wake up those who are running the EU to the realism that is now starting to be highly visible on the horizon of future world history in the making. Unfortunately we shall follow and not lead and that is where the subversion and subservience of our people will evolve like night follows day.

    Dr David Hill
    World Innovation Foundation

    By :
    Dr David Hill - World Innovation Foundation
    - Posted on :
    17/08/2012
  • Of course the EU is heading towards a train wreck. The cheap, easy money days are over.

    Raising taxes and adding punitive austerity in the mix is an excellent recipe for a failed economic policy. What makes matters worse there is zero, as in none, creative thinking in any of the EU capitals that promotes growth.

    Finally, the EU zone as a whole dislike entrepreneurship. Create some income and the government will have their hands on it before you pay your suppliers.

    When the elite get back off their dacha style vacations they will try to keep kicking the can down the road.

    By :
    John
    - Posted on :
    18/08/2012
  • A recession, oh no didnt see that coming? The last one out of the euro is a rotten egg!!!!!
    Get real folks?? Get out while you can.

    By :
    klassen
    - Posted on :
    19/08/2012
  • Web Bot has predicted it all http://2012world-ends.com/articles/prophecies/web-bot.php

    By :
    Kartel
    - Posted on :
    21/08/2012
  • http:/2012world-ends.com/articles/prophecies/web-bot.php

    A world end?

    By :
    Kartel
    - Posted on :
    21/08/2012
  • Web Bot's prediction that the world for humans will end in 2012 is a bit premature, but their prediction will eventually prove to be true in time. Not just me saying it but eminent researchers at MIT and the Royal Society with their recent reports on the state of the world order. Indeed MIT predict by only 2030 or there around that a collapse of the human experience will happen. The Royal Society in their in-depth analytical study goes on to confirm this in different words.

    But it is possible for 2012 I have also got to say as a pandemic equivalent to the Spanish flu in 1918 that took up to 100 million lives (only 1.8 billion people then) could wipe out up to 1 billion humans (now 7 billion+ humans). The reason, drugs and vaccines will never come in time according to the 2009 Swine Flu pandemic as effective vaccines were only produced 7 months 1 week after the first death and then we had to manufacture them for the world. In 1918 after the first wave of deaths and the virus had mutated itself into another more deadly virus it did its worst between week 16 and week 26. Therefore one month 1 week before the Swine Flu vaccine was ready in 2009 and therefore we would be all dead by the time a vaccine became available in any future killer pandemic. But, with modern fast transit unlike 1918 where the fastest transport was the slow boat to China, a global killer virus would travel like wildfire and the number of human deaths would increase by at least by 10-fold.

    That is why my Foundation has been saying for several years now that killer viruses have to be stopped in their tracks at 'source'. That it the only way to prevent this happening and where Margaret Chan Director-General of the World Health Organization has said that it is only a matter of time not when. Unfortunately Nature Magazine in 2007 killed off this alternative strategy that did not rely on drugs but the philosophy that prevention was better than cure.

    That global strategy that Nature Magazine killed off was - http://avian-influenza.cirad.fr/content/download/1931/11789/file/Kennedy-F-Shortridge.pdf

    Dr David Hill
    World Innovation Foundation

    Ps. When you download the file it may say that some files may have viruses. To show how low these drug companies will stoop they have tagged this to the file in the hope that no-one downloads the conference speech in Thailand in 2007. When you are dealing with tens of billions of drug sales this is what happens in reality. But I can totally assure readers that this download is perfectly safe and only put there by vested interests.

    By :
    Dr David Hill - World Innovation Foundation
    - Posted on :
    21/08/2012
Background: 

China's Commerce Ministry said on Thursday (16 August) that its trade outlook for 2012 is worsening, darkened especially by problems in Europe, revealing the longest run of falling inward investment growth since the 2008-09 global crisis.

But other economies have home-made problems as well.

Britain's brief moment in the sun hosting the 2012 Olympic games is expected to force a high jump out of recession in the current quarter. That probably won't last, partly because of fiscal austerity measures being imposed there too.

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