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Published 12 June 2012, updated 13 June 2012

Open Europe, a Eurosceptic think tank close to the Conservative party, has dismissed calls from Tory backbenchers that the UK should leave the EU, saying it is in Britain's national interest to stay.

With the British government facing fresh demands for a referendum on the country’s EU membership, Open Europe argues in a new 50-page report that Britain should remain in the EU

Backbenchers in Prime Minister David Cameron's Tory party have stepped up calls to renegotiate the UK's relationship with Europe in recent days, while one MP preparing legislation that could see the country withdraw from the EU altogether.

But Open Europe dismissed those calls, saying that "leaving the EU would raise more questions than answers." What Britain needs is a new set of membership terms, but certainly not leaving the EU, the report argues.

Alternatives to EU membership - along the lines of  Norway, Switzerland or Turkey - would all come with major economic drawbacks, especially for key businesses such as car manufacturers and financial services, the Open Europe analysts argue.

The Norway-type of relationship with the EU, which is the closest next to full accession, is seen as even more detrimental that the one with Switzerland or with Turkey. Turkey is a candidate country but its prospects for joining the EU remain uncertain.

Consequently, Open Europe advocates that the UK remain a full member of the EU customs union and single market in goods and services – allowing it to remain at the heart of European cross-border trade - but substantially reducing the non-trade EU involvement and costs whenever possible, including bringing powers back to the UK.

No clear-cut or easy option

Open Europe Director Mats Persson said there was no clear-cut or easy option for the UK outside the EU.

“If Britain chose to leave tomorrow, it would raise more questions than answers, and contrary to popular belief, still require complex negotiations with and approval from other European governments,” he said.

Persson argued that “it is in the UK’s interests to stay in the EU but renegotiate a new model for membership founded on a continued commitment to EU-wide trade but substantially less EU involvement in other areas.”

The report analysed the pros and cons of four options to reform the UK's relationship to the EU but said none are suitable.

  • The ‘Norwegian model’ would free the UK from the Common Agricultural Policy (CAP), EU fishing rules, EU-wide regional policy and reduce its budget contribution. However, while guaranteeing access to the Single Market in services and goods, outside the customs union, access for goods would be subject to complex rules of origin and Britain would still be subject to EU regulations on employment and financial services but with no formal ability to shape them.
  • The ‘Swiss model’, or free trade agreement: The Swiss-EU bilateral deal, without the CAP, EU fishing rules, EU-wide regional policy, and reduced financial contribution, offers more sovereignty and less EU regulation. However, the UK’s access to the Single Market would be dependent on the deal it could negotiate with the EU – the Swiss deal currently excludes the vast majority of services, including financial services.
  • The ‘Turkey+ model’: The UK would continue to benefit from full access to the EU’s Single Market in goods by remaining in customs union with the EU, but Britain would be bound by any external deals that the EU strikes in trade in goods without any formal way of shaping them. A separate deal on services would be required to maintain UK access to the Single Market in these sectors. It would be free from EU social and employment regulation, the CAP, CFP and EU-wide regional policy.
  • The ‘full break’: If the UK left the EU without securing a version of the above options, the country could fall back on its World Trade Organisation membership. This would see some exports facing relatively high tariffs (i.e. 10% on car exports) and market access for services would be limited.
Positions: 

It is becoming increasingly obvious that British Prime Minister David Cameron will have to offer voters a referendum on the EU, even if the new treaty does not involve a significant transfer of power to Brussels, Mary Ann Sieghart argues in a commentary published by The Independent newspaper.

“The referendum would not strictly be an in/out one, but a poll on any proposed new treaty. If this is a treaty which keeps the UK well away from more EU integration, protects us from being outvoted and reduces regulation in a few key areas, then the British people will probably support it, albeit with little enthusiasm. But if Cameron fails to secure strong enough safeguards, he will suffer a humiliating defeat, which could presage our leaving the EU,” Sieghart writes.

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COMMENTS

  • Maybe the EU should pay the UK to get out. The institutional obstruction that the UK has demonstrated in the past 40 years certainly has its price. For instance, the EU could offer Britain a full customs union for goods plus 10 years of freedom of services, including for financial services. Or perpetual freedom of financial services up to a fixed euro volume, for instance the current level, beyond which tarriffs would apply.

    By :
    Charles
    - Posted on :
    12/06/2012
  • Given that the UK is by far the biggest customer of the Eurozone, and with a heavy trade surplus benefiting the Eurozone, I don't see that cutting our shackles with Brussels will be all that detrimental. Will the Germans, French, Italians etc. really stop selling us cars, cheese, wine and so on? The reality is they can't afford to not deal with us on a tariff free basis.

    By :
    Charles_M
    - Posted on :
    12/06/2012
  • That of course is based on the assumption that "Open Europe" is a Eurosceptic thinktank. It is not and never has been. It, like many "Eurosceptic" politicians are there to ensure that the electorate are not pushed to parties like UKIP.

    Charles of course is perfectly correct. I'm sure Germany would stop selling us their cars and the French would with-hold supplies of their excellent wines and cheeses if we left the EU.

    The EU is a drain on the UK. Over the years it has cost us far more than we have gained from it. We should never have joined.

    By :
    Sue
    - Posted on :
    12/06/2012
  • The truth is Open Europe has no clue why the EU exists, Had the researchers of open Europe done their homework, they would have discovered that a Briton wrote about EU - how it would develop, its character and future prospects - even before the French founding Fathers of EU - Jean Monnet and Robert Schuman - were born in 1888 and 1886. This Briton specifically recorded that a confederation of European nations would develop through a great European crisis, and this group of nations would become one of the major political features in history. He described the EU "the vile confederacy of the latter days. He has been proved right, The EU is corrupt -its accounts have not been approved for years. The EU is anti-democratic. Which serious investor would buy shares in a company whose accounts have not been approved for years

    Britain does not need the doomed EU. The Euro may be saved but the EU cannot be saved. Open Europe must also realise that EU leaders have ignored the critical advice Schuman and Adeanuer offered Europeans concerning the survival of the European project.

    By :
    Francis Codjoe
    - Posted on :
    12/06/2012
  • Francis. You are quite correct. Dr Richard North and Christopher Booker have written a book entitled "The Great Deception" which outlines this totalitarian plot quite clearly. It's an excellent read and I would recommend those who are interested in the "truth" to buy it.

    By :
    Sue
    - Posted on :
    12/06/2012
  • Ms May has just informed us that our Government has decided that we are to be snooped on, telephones tapped, e-mails etc to protect children etc. What she did not say was that our elected Government that we pay to govern us, is only following orders of the Unelected would be EU Government through DIRECTIVE 2006/24/EC OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND OF THE COUNCIL of 15 March 2006 on the retention of data generated or processed in connection with the provision of publicly available electronic communications services or of public communications networks and amending Directive 2002/58/EC.

    As a UK Government took us into the EC/EEC/EU WITHOUT A REFERENDUM, it is up to our UK Government to take us out. We had no referendum to go in, we do not need one to come out. If a UK government EVER WANTS TO GAIN ANY CREDIBILITY OR RESPECT OR TO EVEN GOVERN THIS COUNTRY EVER AGAIN, IT should make the decision to repeal the European Communities Act 1972/3 immediately and then repudiate all EU Treaties.

    Once THAT is done, we will however, have a referendum after we are OUT of the EU altogether, to see "if we have done the right thing-similar to the Referendum we had when we were asked if we wanted to remain in the Treaty of Rome in 1975 after the British Government took us into that Organisation and the people were told lie after lie what the European Community was all about. Yet all in that Parliament at that time-as you do Know NOW-knew it was about the one State of European Union.

    By :
    Anne
    - Posted on :
    14/06/2012
  • Thanks Anne. I KNEW that this had to originate from Brussels. Is it part of the Stockholm Programme? I've been looking for the specific directive that you have mentioned above.

    Do you have a blog? I'd be quite happy to share some of your posts when the inclination takes you. You can contact me on swbk2345@gmail.com

    By :
    Sue
    - Posted on :
    14/06/2012
  • No Sue I do not have a blog. I have just been reading a Court Case re the retention of Data, that Ireland took and sadly lost, but thank you Ireland for trying.

    However. In the last war-which I remember very well indeed-read all about it-, no one minded letters opened etc in those days, and we were glad such security was activated-BUT WE ARE NOT AT WAR NOW ARE WE. The EU is all about Peace, Security, Sharing, etc AND THEY COME UP WITH this! And as long as we remain in the EU-we all have to obey-even we are told is an EU Citizen by kindly deeds of SIR John MAJOR.

    We have a Government that doesn't even have the guts to say to any of us, that all they are doing is obeying EU ORDERS like the rest of us. Remind us all please, why are we voting for them and why are we paying them and perhaps THAT is more to the point. They still want our money and vast expenses yet do not want to Govern this Country. Me ANGRY? But just tell me please, when it comes to voting in a General Election WHY DOES ANYONE WANT TO VOTE FOR ANY OF THE THREE MAJOR POLITICAL PARTIES THAT WANT TO REMAIN IN THE EU FOREVER?

    By :
    Anne
    - Posted on :
    14/06/2012
  • I'm furious about the way we've been treated. I don't vote anymore and advocate a "none of the above" policy. I live in hope that this despicable organisation implodes and we are forced to break free. The question then is, are our politicians actually capable of running a country on their own?

    Please feel free to contact me if you want to post anything, even if it's just to get it off your chest :)

    By :
    Sue
    - Posted on :
    14/06/2012
  • You have a free vote Sue, use it. Everyone should use their vote but they should always use it wisely. I have asked for "see through Ballot Boxes" to make sure they are empty when they are brought in for a General election, a ban on postal votes unless it can be proven that the person is indisposed etc.

    You vote for a UK Politician to Govern this Country according to its own Long Standing Common law Constitution, they cannot do that until this Country is Free from foreign Governance. It seems all three major Political Parties want the money, the title, the vast expenses yet want foreigners to govern this Country forever. As long as people continue to vote for any one of those three major political parties, they get what they used their vote for.

    By :
    Anne
    - Posted on :
    14/06/2012
  • Proposal of a Pilot Project called "ExUt"

    Especially made for scepticle UK-Politicians!!

    Leaving EU completely for only 2 Years and see how British People reacts !

    I don't longer believe the British politicians comparing their words over British people!

    one market , one market , one market, one m... !

    By :
    an european
    - Posted on :
    07/07/2012
  • In case some haven't noticed, the Euro-Zone is still on course for breaking up. It certainly is not out of the "woods" yet. In the mean time the EU as a whole comes up with the EU Directive 2006/24/EC. Ignoring the fact that previous EU Directives allegedly protected certain communications. This is an EU Directive that wants to and gives the EU the right to snoop on everything and everybody in the EU and has the money apparently through our Contributions financially to do it.

    Yet how or why can a Sovereign British Government allow a foreign organisation dictate to what is supposed to be a freely elected Government by the people in this once Sovereign Country-a Country THAT SO MANY CIVILIANS AND FORCES GAVE THEIR LIVES FOR IN TWO WORLD WARS? Was it all for this full scale snooping into private innocent people’s lives every day, every Year and for this information to go to foreigners on the Continent? WHY? It does not make any sense.

    We are told that "it is essential that the UK is able to obtain communications data in the interests of national security and the prevention and detection of crime; End of Quotes. But this isn’t just about NATIONAL SECURITY is it, because all this information is not just going to remain with National Governments at all, because all this information is required by the European Union, the private information re telephone calls, e-mails etc are to be forwarded to and for the European Union, under EU Directive 2006/24/EC. This is not just about one or two people’s Telephone calls, or e-mails etc, or even letters, noted who to or from. It is about the Surveillance of a whole NATION. A Nation whose people fought and died for ALL OUR FREEDOM which between you all, in that once greatly envied Houses of Parliament are paying dearly in more ways than one, to give away-forever. Read in full also the proposals in EU Document COM/2012/09 the security of our Country to the EU. This is allewgedly because of TERROISM and TERRORISTS.

    Open Europe, the Eurosceptic think tank close to the Conservative party can think what they like for the rest of the people are coming out of the EU. We have fought two World Wars to be FREE and we are not going to let all those that died fighting or being bombed to HELL (Millions and Millions of them) to have died for nothing for THIS-to be spied on forever!

    By :
    Anne
    - Posted on :
    07/07/2012
  • Ich glaube die total verückt geworden sind. Sie müssen raus! Europa wird ohne Insel Affe viel stärker und bewusster! Einfach an Amerika betteln und Ruhe!

    A mon avis, ils sont devenus completement dingos ceux là! Avec leur économie en miettes, faut pas qu'ils se gênent pour aller mendier plutôt du côté des americains!

    I think they went mad. Just let them beg some more the americans, that's all they're good at those slaves and poodles. For the rest: doubble dip recession, exploding public debt, world record private debt, pound shrinking, huge negative trade balance, industry in tattes... too greedy!!!

    By :
    matthias
    - Posted on :
    02/08/2012
Background: 

The British government is facing increasing calls from a group of Tory backbenchers to renegotiate the UK's relationship with Europe, while one MP prepared legislation which could see the country withdraw from the EU altogether.

The UK's relationship with Europe has long been divisive for the Conservatives, with the Eurosceptic right of Prime Minister David Cameron claiming they were robbed of a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty in 2009. 

Before coming to power in 2010, the Conservatives have questioned the economic benefits of EU membership, stating their opposition to the Lisbon Treaty and saying they would seek a popular referendum for its approval.

Instead, Cameron has passed into law a ''referendum lock'' which would trigger a plebiscite if new powers were passed on to Brussels.

Former European Trade Commissioner Peter Mandelson, a Labour politician, recently called for a referendum on the future of the UK’s position in Europe. However, he acknowledged his views were shared by few of his compatriots.

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