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Published 19 December 2012, updated 20 December 2012

Failed attempts to modify the EU's staff regulation will result in an automatic pay increase for European civil servants, the European Commission admitted yesterday (18 December) as a special 5.5% tax on salaries is due to expire.

Talks between EU member states on a proposal to modify the staff regulations have led nowhere, the European Parliament announced in a statement.

The Parliament blamed the Council, where EU member countries sit, for the inter-institutional blockage.

Even though the Commission proposal to amend the regulation has been public for 17 months, EU member states have basically ignored it.

Britain has pushed for additional cuts to those proposed by the European Commission, which has the sole right to initiate legislation at EU level.

The British proposal included increasing the retirement age to 68 years and abolishing the European school system, which provides free education for the offspring of EU civil servants in their native languages.

However, no counter-proposal has been made by other member states and the talks collapsed.

The main changes in the Commission proposal included a 5% reduction of staff in all EU institutions, between 2013 and 2017, which will be offset by a longer working day, from 37.5 to 40 hours without salary compensation. Also, the Commission proposed to increase the retirement age from 63 to 65 and cut - by 18% and 45% - the starting and end-of-career salaries for certain jobs.

The Commission also proposed that wages be indexed on the basis of salary fluctuations in the public services of all member states. Currently, salaries fluctuate following a basket of eight countries (Britain, Germany, France, Italy, the Netherlands, Spain, Belgium and Luxembourg). Under the latest salary adjustment, on this basis EU officials would have lost 1.1% in purchasing power.

Anthony Gravili, spokesperson for Commission Vice President Maroš Šefčovič, who is in charge of administration, said that “once again” the Council seemed to “break the law” and had in fact “decided not to decide”.

“We will wait for the exact wording of this rather unusual decision and will analyse the legal consequences. Any decision will not take place before January,” he said.

Solidarity levy

Gravili said the income of EU civil servants would rise as a result of the stand-off. This is because a special "solidarity levy" will expire, he said when asked by EurActiv to explain why this would be the case.

EU civil servants pay the 5.5% solidarity levy on top of income tax of up to 45%. This tax was introduced during the 1970s oil crisis and was maintained over time. The Commission proposed that the levy be increased to 6%.

“The failure of member states to agree on this proposal, and their subsequent refusal even to accept Vice President Šefčovič's suggestion to extend the tax for 12 months, to buy some extra time to reach agreement on our austerity and reform proposals, is the reason - and the only reason - why the special levy is expiring in this way. The Commission did not want it to expire. It is the member states' fault it is expiring,” Gravili said.

He said that it would be simplistic to say that all EU civil servants will get a pay rise of 5.5% because the tax is only applied to the basic salary and varies depending on employment status.

“What we can say is that obviously it does not mean that everyone will be a full 5.5% better off,” Gravili said.

Positions: 

“It is unbelievable that the Council did not use the last chance to prolong the special levy and to avoid a pay rise”, said MEP Dagmar Roth-Behrendt (Socialists & Democrats, Germany), European Parliament rapporteur on the revision of the Staff Regulations.

"First, they were not able to find a common position in time to start trilogues with Parliament, which has been ready to negotiate since April this year. It is the Council's fault that the negotiations will not even have started by the end of this year and the special levy will expire. And now they do not even care if the special levy expires!", she added.

MEP Raffaele Baldassarre (European People's Party, Italy), who oversees negotiations on the EU Staff Regulation proposals for EPP Group , commented:

“The conduct of the Council is unacceptable and goes against the interests of EU Institutions and European taxpayers. The Parliament has always been aware of the need for the EU to send a strong signal, in this time of crisis, by reducing the cost of its administration. The failure of the Council to reach a position on the Staff Regulations will also delay the implementation of further changes introduced by the Parliament, aimed at reducing costs whilst maintaining a high level of efficiency.”

Georgi Gotev

COMMENTS

  • It is vital, in terms of relations between the EU administration and the public, for salary structures to be clear and easily available. I paid the 'crisis' levy for twenty years, wondering all the while how one would define 'crisis'. It is time to adjust salary scales and to do away with the 'crisis' levy, which makes no sense since it is unrelated to crises. It would have been simple to keep salary payments unaltered (an objective decrease in real terms) even if 'the method' would thereby be compromised. At the same time abolition of the crisis levy would imply a rise in real terms despite the formal freeze on salaries. All stakeholders would have been content, providing this was not misused - with the crisis levy creeping back in again. The main point though is to show the public what real salaries are, so as to avoid recent internet accusations based on special cases such as the special representatives - this has caused many a citizen to assume that such unjustified exceptions are the rule. Thus ignorance has ruled, bad feeling created and all sides have suffered. Who are the experts who take such decisions? Surely we should be told! In short 1. end te crisis levy 2. agree a one year salary freeze 3. return to the 'method'.

    By :
    David Spence
    - Posted on :
    19/12/2012
  • Some facts:
    Purchasing power evolution of salaries of national civil servants (central government) between 2004 and 2011:
    EU civil servants: -7.6%
    DE civil servants: -4.5%
    UK civil servants: -3.2%
    FR civil servants: -0.3%
    BE civil servants: +2.3%
    NL civil servants: +2.9%

    Net salary evolution in 2011:
    EU civil servants: +0% (proposed 1.7% rejected by Council).
    DE federal civil servants: +1.3% (decision of October '11: +2.44% as of 1 January '12).
    UK civil servants: +1.3%
    FR civil servants: +2.0%.
    NL civil servants: +2.0%
    BE civil servants: +3.6%.

    Purchasing power evolution 2011:
    EU civil servants: -3.6% (given Council's refusal of 2011 pay adjustment).
    DE civil servants: -1.1%
    FR civil servants: -0.3%.
    NL civil servants: -0.5%
    UK civil servants: -2.8%
    BE civil servants: +0.2%

    Weekly working time obligation:
    EU civil servants: 37.5h; COM proposal: 40h as of 1 Jan 2013 as compensation for a 5% staff cut (€835 million of savings until 2020).
    DE civil servants: 39h for contract staff, 41h for officials.
    FR civil servants: 35h.
    NL civil servants: 36h (compensation hours if they voluntarily work longer).
    UK civil servants: 36h.
    BE civil servants: 38h.

    Pension contribution:
    EU civil servants: 11.6%.
    DE civil servants: 0%.
    FR civil servants: 7.85% (as of 2020: 10.55%).
    UK civil servants: 3.5%.
    NL civil servants: 6.42%
    BE civil servants: 0%

    Annual accrual rate (pension rights per year of service):
    EU civil servants: 1.9%.
    DE civil servants: 1.79% (note: unlike the EU pension scheme, the German scheme recognises pre-service periods like time spent after the age of 17 on education, studies, preparatory services etc. as service periods on which the 1.79% are applied, see Articles 6 to 14 of the Gesetz über die Versorgung der Beamten und Richter des Bundes).
    FR civil servants: 1.81%.
    NL civil servants: 2.05%
    UK civil servants: 2.3%

    Normal retirement age:
    EU civil servants: 63; Commission proposal 65, and easier to work until 67.
    DE civil servants: 65 (increase to 67 with a transition).
    NL civil servants: 65.
    FR civil servants: from 60 to 62 in 2018.
    The Commission reform proposal will bring the pension age closer to the DE civil service bearing in mind that EU staff works abroad and is expatriate staff until retirement. (70% of EU expat staff leave the host country after retirement.)

    Early retirement age/minimum pensionable age:
    EU civil servants: 55; Commission proposal 58.
    DE civil servants: 63.
    NL civil servants: 60.
    UK civil servants: 50.

    Maximum rate of pension:
    EU civil servants: 70% of final salary.
    DE civil servants: 71.25% of final salary.
    FR civil servants: 75% of final salary (can be increased to 80%).
    NL civil servants: no clear information from NL government.
    UK civil servants: 75% of highest earning (2007 scheme); 66% (1972 + 2002 scheme).
    The maximum pension rate of EU civil servants is comparable to the DE civil service. To bear in mind: 45% of EU staff receive a pension which is lower than 70%. 15% receive less than 50%. The average is currently 62% and will go down to 55% based on the 2004 pension reform and 2012 proposals.

    Sources:
    Commission statistics
    Eurostat statistics

    By :
    Gini
    - Posted on :
    19/12/2012
  • @ Gini
    You do not mention that Early retirement for UK Civil Servants has gone up:

    Not until 55 if you joined on or after 6 April 2006. The pension will be reduced by 5.25% for each year before pension age.

    This is a problem that will not go away as Pensions become less affordable due to longevity.

    Your post does not cover other perks that may not be available to member state Civil Servants which EU employees get.

    George Mc

    By :
    George Mc
    - Posted on :
    20/12/2012
  • Good to know that the Brussels party scene keeps going strong.

    Meanwhile, 12 million Europeans are unemployed. In the private as well as the public sector wages are being cut. The Greek are experimenting a diet other nations might soon have to follow.

    "It seems to me that the powers that be
    keep themselves in splendour and security.
    ...
    Lower class jackass pay me tax
    take out the trash
    Working for the world go round."

    (FGTH, Warriors of the Wasteland)

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    20/12/2012
  • Interesting article, but now I'm even more confused. So EU Officials DO pay income tax and not just this 5.5% 'solidarity levy'? And 45 percent? That was not my impression.

    The last time we discussed this topic was a few weeks ago. The comments quickly became puerile and I stopped posting (but I continued to read). Not once to I recall reading about a 45% income tax:
    http://www.euractiv.com/priorities/eu-sources-cameron-get-eu-admini-news-516267

    By :
    Oli
    - Posted on :
    20/12/2012
  • I realise that many people are Euro-sceptic, but I am amused to see how emotional some people are, and how they refuse the facts. Look at the comments in this exchange and see if you can find any facts in the sceptics' outcry. There are none. In addition we learn that people do not know that EU officials pay a tax on their salaries, in addition to a 5.5% crisis levy that has lasted over 20 years! And we learn that there is a Brussels 'party-scene' but we do not learn what the writer means by it. Then there is the view that 'we Europeans' accept 0% increase, but that writer (maybe Dutch since ARJEN is Dutch name?) does not read (or at least does not comment on) the statistic showing NL civil servants and others do quite well compared with EU officials. Seemingly, the more facts people get, and thanks to Gini for some of them, the more confused they get. Curiously the< do not get more informed and change their minds. Rather they continue mindless, fact-less rants, even wishing that 'we' return to the market as it is/was....neglecting the fact that it was 'the market' which requested the adaptations which made the market fairer, not a consortium of jokers!! So, let's hear some well-argued cases, not blind ignorance substituting for reasoned opinion.

    By :
    David Spence
    - Posted on :
    20/12/2012
  • @ David Spencees,

    Yes, I a Dutch. The sadfull truth is that NL-officials maybe were getting a raise, but I am talking about the Dutch people that are working at companies (and actually do work instead of spending other peoples money).

    It is sad to see that EU officials give themselves a raise of 5.5% (or stop with paying a solidarity tax of 5.5 %, depends on how you look at it but in the end they will get more salary, that is the bottom line) which is paid for by us EU citizens. I believe it is unacceptable to do this in a time where all other EU-citizens are asked to tigthen their belts, sober up and agree in no raise or even lowering of salaries. If the EU were a company it would have gone broke long time ago, you simply can not spend more money than comes in. In the EU one can, simply because you ask all paying parties to pay more.

    Yes, the Dutch are eurosceptic, and with a very good reason. We, as a people, voted NO to the european constitution in 2005 (just like the French), however, in 2007 the politicians simply signed the Lissabon treaty and ignored the NO vote from the people. That is where things really went wrong, and why the Dutch are so euro-sceptic. It would be good to go back to the days where the EEC was still in place, with the only reason to make tradingrules within the EU the same for each memberstate. We are now moving a superstate that 80% of europeans do not want, but it is pushed through by Van Rompuy and his friends, in my point of view for their own glory. I am sick of the whole EU that is now in place.

    By :
    Arjen1969
    - Posted on :
    20/12/2012
  • You say

    "that EU officials give themselves a raise of 5.5% (or stop
    with paying a solidarity tax of 5.5 %,"

    but if you read the news properly you will see

    1. they are not "giving themselves" something - 'they'' are not the decision-makers.

    2. EU officials have been paying 5.5% EXTRA for many years....you should be grateful and respectful of that.

    3. A legal agreement, which member states could have changed, but did not, ends 31 December. So, as of 1 january, the 5.5% is no longer paid. It was not EU officials who decided this.

    So, stick to the facts, rather than your wild opinions - that is all I ask.

    By :
    David Spence
    - Posted on :
    20/12/2012
  • @ David Spence

    The thread Oli mentions contains tons of statistics on Eurocrat pay & perks.
    Ironically, the main source of information -and outcry- is the EU's own website.

    Come on, you must be familiar with the Brussels party scene. Just pop in Brussels' upscale restaurants and bars at lunch and/or dinner time; check out the property adverts;... Don't pretend you don't know.

    By :
    mke
    - Posted on :
    20/12/2012
  • Arjen1969, You say "It would be good to go back to the days where the EEC was still in place, with the only reason to make tradingrules within the EU the same for each memberstate. We are now moving a superstate that 80% of europeans do not want, but it is pushed through by Van Rompuy and his friends, in my point of view for their own glory."

    I'm curious, which specific elements of the European Union do you dislike so much, and why? It's clear you are a Eurosceptic, but you refer to the EEC days like they were better times. So it sounds like you support some aspects of EU integration but not others. What has upset you so much (apart from the fact that the Dutch and French "no" votes did not stop Lisbon)?

    By :
    Oli
    - Posted on :
    20/12/2012
  • @David Spence

    The facts show that the tax will disappear which was in place for more than 20 years. To me that is simply a salary raise. I would consider it a salary raise when my government would cut my taxes by 5.5%.

    I do not blame the people that get their EU-salaries, I do blame however that the EU as an employer does not do everything in its power to prevent this from happening, when all over Europe the citizens have to accept cuts in salaries and governments have to cut on spendings to meet EU-rules. That is what annoys me, the ignorance of doing things like this without even thinking about the consequenses it might have to the outside world.

    We all blame bankers for their behaviour. "They" started the crisis, the citizens have paid for their mistakes, and now the bankers are cheerful to themselves still giving ridicilous bonusses to themselves. Everybody (except those that work in the banking industry) is disgusted with the shameless way these people carry on as if nothing happened.

    I do see the same behaviour in the EU, and since it pisses me off seeing bankers do it, it also pisses me off when I see EU-officials do it.

    By :
    Arjen1969
    - Posted on :
    20/12/2012
  • mke: Regarding the Brussels "party scene." Yes, Brussels has some great restaurants (including some great reasonably-priced ones). This is a good thing.

    But in my view these restaurants are by no means any more excessive than what you find in most major European cities...certainly, you have to spend far more to get a decent meal in London, for example

    By :
    Oli
    - Posted on :
    20/12/2012
  • @Oli

    In London restaurants, however, the clients who charge the bill to all European tax payers are but a very small minority.

    By :
    mke
    - Posted on :
    20/12/2012
  • Oli

    What I do not like most is that it looks like we are forced into one big political union at the moment. Speak to the man in the street and I can guarantee you that over 80% of the people will oppose to that.

    Over the past 20 years I have only seen the influence of the EU increase without the people being asked if they wanted this. And when they asked, our opinion was ignored. I have lost my confidence in politics, to me they are all liars sitting in warm seats making salaries a normal man only can dream of, and it looks as if they are only doing it for their own good, not to improve Europe.

    Furthermore the news that comes from the EU simply is not true. We can not help the Greece by giving them new loans all the time (and the loans come from us, the northern european states as net payers). We are however told by all politicians that our help to Greece does work, and we will even get the investments (loans) back with interest.....yeah right.... Be honest and simple to the people and tell them Greece will go broke, it will cost us some money and make an end to it. That is better than the pampering that has been done so far. I think this is done to give the banks and big financial institutions more time to prepare for their losses, but meanwhile again the citizens are paying for the mistakes political and financial big guys made in the past.

    To put it simply, I do think the EU should be there to promote the same trading- and productrules between Europe for all memberstates, but that is where it should end. That was the main reason the EEC was started, and that was good. Some politicians wanted to have a single currency, the citizens never asked for it, it was a big project of the politicians of those days and forced to us.....we could not choose.

    I simply think the whole idea of the EU is non-democratic, the citizens have nothing to say but they do see one big EU-machine that costs a lot of money.

    By :
    Arjen1969
    - Posted on :
    20/12/2012
  • mke: So what you're referring to by "party scene" is people who put business lunches and dinners on their expense accounts. A few things here:

    1) This is standard in business. Companies do it just as much if not far more so than public officials
    2) How do you know that all these people in restaurants are EU officials? They could be lobbyists.
    3) Indeed, how do you know that these people are putting the bill on an expense account at all?

    By :
    Oli
    - Posted on :
    20/12/2012
  • Arjen1969, thanks for the explanation. I do not fully agree but do understand where you're coming from.

    The only thing I would point out is that 'the EU' is not some big homogeneous entity. Beyond the EU officials / civil servants, the Member States are just as influential, if not more so. The Commission is the one that proposes legislation, but the Member States are the ones who amend and approve/reject it. These Member States are your national politicians, and they are certainly thinking about their own countries at least as much as they are thinking about the EU project. Even Van Rompuy, who admittedly has more power these days than before, does not have anywhere near enough power to do things without the agreement of the Member States.

    To take the advantage of Greece, it's not 'the EU' that's negotiating and giving loans. Why do you think it's always Merkel's face we see on the news when this issue is reported? Because everyone knows that most funds are coming from Germany (a Member State) and that Germany therefore has a big say in the scope of any loans.

    The EU is a union, yes, but very much still composed of countries. If there are democratic deficits with the EU system (and I agree with you, there are some) please don't put all the blame on 'the EU' or Brussels. National politicians are just as much to blame, if not more so...and these national politicians ARE elected by the European people in nearly all cases

    By :
    Oli
    - Posted on :
    20/12/2012
  • there are so many wrong assumptions and non sequitors in this that I have to stop contributing....you need to buy an introductory book to the EU and read it carefully, not rely on your assumptions, which are just wrong. I cannot do the introductory course by email!!

    By :
    David Spence
    - Posted on :
    20/12/2012
  • David: was that comment addressed to me?

    By :
    Oli
    - Posted on :
    20/12/2012
  • Our politicians are indeed elected by the people.....and that is also a part where it goes wrong. Before elections in Holland most of them were shouting "no more money to Greece". When push comes to shove the bottomline is that there will be some tranches of money going there again, while everybody knows it is money that will go directly from the Greek government to big financial institutions.

    We are no longer ruled by our politicians, they are simply slaves of the financial sector that is running the politics nowadays. That is what really upsets me most.

    If the EU would like to have some positive input from the EU citizens they should start with the moving of the parliament from Strassbourg to Brussels and back every month. It may not be a big saving, but that is what disturbes people like myself. It is a waste of money, and there are definitely more ways to cut spending within the organization. I also think it is ridicilous that, in times like these, the EU wants a 5% raise of their funds for the coming period of 5 years, when all EU memberstates have to make cuts in their spending. That is something that one can not explain the the normal citizen. But I think that you have an idea of my opinion on the EU. It is not bad in all things, however they should try to show some more empathy to the citizens, make them feel they are listened to and understood, because at this moment that is not happening, and might lead to very serious problems in the future.

    By :
    Arjen1969
    - Posted on :
    20/12/2012
  • @ myself.....start with moving of course is stop with moving the parliament every month and pick one place as their location.

    By :
    Arjen1969
    - Posted on :
    20/12/2012
  • If someone doesn't agree with a (multinational) company's policy, whether it be on Human Rights or remuneration of staff, he/she can simply stop buying the products or services the company sells. Unfortunately, even when not agreeing with the EU's policy on remuneration, no European can stop sponsoring the EU institutions.

    Please have a look at the EU (!) sources listed in the other thread. The expenses on private travel etc. are mind-boggling.

    By :
    mke
    - Posted on :
    20/12/2012
  • I agree about keeping the Parliament in Brussels, 100%

    To be honest, regarding salaries, I've lived in Brussels for years and still do not understand fully whether EU Officials are taxed to a comparable rate. The 5.5% tax I always knew about, but understood it was the sole tax they paid. Then articles like this refer to an additional tax of up to 45% on EU salaries. What is it? I haven't summoned up the courage to rudely ask acquaintances at the EU what their gross and net salaries are, but it is very confusing.

    That said, I am actually quite supportive of the EU project and its aims. I think we all agree that it has imperfections, however I also feel that most Europeans do not properly understand how the EU works, either in theory or in practice. It's not something that's easy to explain over the internet. It took me years of working in Brussels to understand, and there are plenty of details I still don't know. Needless to say, it's far more complex than more European citizens understand or should be expected to understand. This leads, in my view, to citizens holding plenty of misunderstandings, generalisations and outright myths about the EU. It's sad that we have a system that the average citizen cannot understand without applied study, but it's even sadder when well-meaning EU Officials cop a lot of hate from this.

    By :
    Oli
    - Posted on :
    20/12/2012
  • mke: most of the 'scandals' related to expenses on private travel actually relate to Members of the European Parliament (MEPs). These are not 'Eurocrats.' On the contrary, they are directly elected by EU citizens. And yes, some of them are scumbags who abuse their travel between Brussels and their home country as an excuse to sign off on excessive travel.

    On the otherhand, everyday EU officials who live permanently in Brussels have no such travel allowance, except for the exceptional case where they have to travel somewhere for a meeting.

    Don't flame the entire EU civil service just because of some genuinely bad eggs in the Parliament that WE THE PEOPLE elected

    By :
    Oli
    - Posted on :
    20/12/2012
  • "When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed." (A. Rand, "Atlas Shrugged")

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    20/12/2012
  • @Oli

    I am not even referring to any scandal whatsoever. I just refer to money figures that have been published in EU accounts.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    20/12/2012
  • @ Oli

    A couple of Quotes from you:
    This leads, in my view, to citizens holding plenty of misunderstandings, generalisations and outright myths about the EU. It's sad that we have a system that the average citizen cannot understand without applied study, but it's even sadder when well-meaning EU Officials cop a lot of hate from this.

    ...and these national politicians ARE elected by the European people in nearly all cases
    Unquote

    Oli, on the first quote – Whose fault is that? Could I suggest that it is an education matter but as you say earlier in a quote the whole system is so strange to anything that we in the UK understand that you really can't blame people.

    When it comes to the salary and terms and conditions it would pay people to look at the PDF on the EU website which covers the whole shooting match. As so often in these matters the ordinary foot soldier is perhaps not too well off but with career progression it is possible to do very well indeed.
    http://ec.europa.eu/civil_service/job/official/index_en.htm
    The Income tax that you queried earlier runs from 8% to 45% which I assume depends on earning levels.

    In the second quote you seem to blame the voters on the basis that you get what you voted for. This is where I have a lot of empathy with our Dutch friend Arjen1969. In National politics if the government is not doing well or gets tired you vote them out. Elections are very rarely about anything other than Jobs/Economy, Education, Health Service.

    In the UK the three mainstream parties very rarely talk about Europe and we never ever get the opportunity to vote anyone of any influence or importance in or out. That in my book means that the electorate has been disenfranchised for the past forty years.

    EU staff is therefore copping a lot of bad press, not because they are bad people but because they are seen to be protected from the economic crisis that everyone else is having to deal with in their day to day lives. I believe that a lot of citizens of the states that pay the bills are waking up to the creeping loss of sovereignty over the pass 40 years plus and are not happy. I said earlier that the three UK political parties have ignored the EU at election time. I genuinely believe that they will do that at their peril next time.

    By :
    George Mc
    - Posted on :
    21/12/2012
  • Some unbiased information about EU civil Service :
    http://www.u4unity.eu/hoax.htm

    Yes, the officials are subject to a progressive income tax.

    By :
    Jean-Paul
    - Posted on :
    21/12/2012
  • Perhaps instead of people remarking about the salaries going up the EU should report further in much more open detail about the salary structures and banding and the relevant peripheral additions that each person gets.
    Simply put....
    Senior Secretariat person..qualifications say BA/BSc
    Post qualification experience - say 3 years.
    1] Salary....€110,000-00 per year
    2] Total Tax Rate and Insurance
    3.1] Pensions contribution %age by employee
    3.2] Pensions contribution %age by employer
    4] Peripheral Entitlements...holidays per year 6 weeks say
    5] Hours worked per week - mandatory number assumed to be 40 hours.
    6] Over-time paid and how it is rated.
    7] Terms of Contract...5 years for example, rolling contracts seem to be the normal.
    8] Is Appointment to a salary band or fixed, and thence like all Civil Servants world-wide how they are regraded to maximise their incrteasing "importance" and progression...it does happen
    9] Is the Pension a %age of some mystical salary ond is it Index-linked and to what?
    10] Sickness Pay and cursory entitlements (in the Uk and French Civil Service they call this Seniority/Agony Leave
    11] What Expense Account Details they are allowed and what they claim.
    12] Do they Get Accommodation allowances? (almost certainly!)
    13] Travel Allowances and roughly how much per Civil Servant and Type..no doubt First Class as always whereas muggins sits in the worst seats on all trains and aircraft etc.
    14] They get an Education Allowance for Children? What nonsense, so why?
    15] Are these people Self-employed Companies like those we hear about in Westmisnster and pay minimal taxes.

    So with every perso now accounted for let's see the full published list under the Freedom of Information Act of Every Civil Servant employed in the EU (regardless of location) named - without a Direct Naming - and Country of Origin in the EU (or elsehwere as on occasions it is so) from the lowest paid up to the Mega-Paid High-earners the DGs on their €400,000-00 per year and to the Commisioners ontheir equally obscene salaries laid out for us all to see.

    we have the Freedom of Information Act available so let's really see what is being paid and then we can judge the results.

    By :
    Karel
    - Posted on :
    22/12/2012
  • @ Karel
    Steady you will get them all excited! You could add to your list something that I heard David Cameron banging on about - Do they get "Automatic Promotion"?

    George Mc

    By :
    George Mc
    - Posted on :
    22/12/2012
  • Have a look at the figures the European Commission publishes:

    http://ec.europa.eu/civil_service/job/official/index_fr.htm

    The lower portion is taxed at 8%. In Germany, people earning the lower salary are taxed at 14%; in Belgium, 23% and in Spain, 24,75%.
    The upper portion is taxed at 45%. Only Italy has a rate that is lower (43%).

    In other words, a top eurocrat does not pay 45% on the whole of his salary, but only on the part exceeding € 6,900 !

    Let’s take a eurocrat earning € 4,243 a month. How much tax does he/she pay?
    The first € 109,84 are tax-free.
    Then, he/she pays 8% on the first € 1,938; 10% on the next € 731,69; 12,5% on the next € 390,04 and 15% on the remaining € 414,75.
    This is an overall tax rate of 11%.

    Last but not least, the 8-to-45% rate only applies to the basic salary, NOT to the bundle of hefty fees:

    - an expat fee: 16% of basic salary
    - an “allocation foyer”: 5% of basic salary
    - a fee of 247,86 €/month per child
    - an “allocation scolaire”: 221,5 €/month per child
    - …

    All these fees are free of tax.

    As you can see, there is really no need to misinform the public –as they stand the figures are sufficiently outrageous.

    Eurocrats are always keen to accuse of demagogy anyone who criticizes them.
    Yet, any eurocrat who claims he is paying taxes “like everybody else”, even at a 45% tax rate, is a master demagogue.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    22/12/2012
  • @ Mike
    Excellent research Mike. Just goes to prove that once you get past the smoke and mirrors and denials it is pretty disgusting.

    George Mc

    By :
    George Mc
    - Posted on :
    22/12/2012
  • @ Mike.... thanks for that research. Shows that my gut feeling is not only based upon what I see, but there are also facts to prove it (in contradiction to what someone else here stated). Guess you are right, as soon as Eurocrats are being under fire they tend to walk away instead of discuss, see one example above that told (I guess me) to study the EU better before talking and critisizing....... Btw, I knew your figures, a documentary made in Belgium showed this outrageous salary and benefits program that is in place.

    By :
    Arjen1969
    - Posted on :
    23/12/2012
  • And mike is talking about demagogy :). He conveniently 'forgets' the special tax which was paid since 1972 and, no doubt, will be re-imposed as soon as the governments agree. It raises the income tax by 5,5%. Of course, also not the 'extras' are given to all, if indeed many. E.g. one gets school allowance only if one sends its child to non-Belgian public and non-Euroepan school. The number of persons who do that is close to 0. Etc etc. Well, never mind. The tabloids have done their job well.

    Speaking as a low-level assistant I may say that after 20% salary cut in 2004 (Kinnock Reform), 7,5% loss in real terms and introduction of planned Council proposals which would decrease my income by further 35% (in total: over 60% income loss in less than a decade) I will just go back to my home country. No doubt many of my colleagues will do the same and your dream of 'no EU' will be fulfilled.

    What sickens me is how national politicians demagogically talk about ;high earners', but target people at the bottom and not the Commissioners etc. Cameron is a prime example.

    @ Karel: does this Freedom of Information Act also apply to the national administrations? They were asked for information on what conditions they employ people in Brussels and just refused. I'd love to know what salaries and perks are given to German, Dutch or British Perm. Rep. here, but it seems to be classified.

    By :
    Inga
    - Posted on :
    23/12/2012
  • @Inga
    Criticise a Eurocrat and he/she insinuates demagogy. Again!

    I did not “conveniently forget” mentioning the tax because it is about to expire –that is what above article is about by the way. You are merely speculating about its reintroduction.
    Anyway, even with this minor tax you would still be paying less than half of what a local is paying.

    Concerning the fee: does it seem unreasonable that, in order to get a fee, one should comply with a requisite? Does that sound unfair in Eurocrat land?

    As you should have noticed, I do not take my information from tabloids but from the source itself, the EU website.

    You are right, though, in your remark on the Commissioners.

    I am sorry to hear that you will have to leave Brussels because of financial reasons.
    If it is any consolation: think of all the natives who have to leave Brussels due to Eurocrat property speculation.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    24/12/2012
  • In short: the rulers have different tax rates from the ruled.

    Typical: those who pretend to do most for a cause -in this case the EU- contribute least.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    24/12/2012
  • @mike
    Re-introduction of the special tax is not a speculation, but certainty. As certain it is that the new tax rate will be higher than the current one.
    I hope that if somebody hikes up your taxes by 5,5% -or more-you will consider it as minor as you believe it for us. I do feel the difference.

    Belgium indeed has high payroll tax rates, with many possibilitites to reduce them (children, mortgage, solar panel installation etc. lead to deductions) which btw we do not have. Most people, were they not working for the EU, would never come to Belgium in the first place and would pay they national payroll tax. Which, just for example, in Czech Republic is a flat-rate 15%. Many pay in fact more in EU-tax than they would under their national regime. And of course we pay all the Belgium taxes which we do not have in [some] of our countries, e.g. for car ownership.
    How come nobody criticises NATO, OECD, EBRD etc.? The employees there pay no income tax, yet they never make headlines.

    As for conditions to qualify for allowance: my point is that you - and most- make it sound as if anybody gets it, while in fact it is few persons.

    And as for the housing: in city where purchase of a property means paying non-recoverable tax of 12,5% of its value, there is no speculation. And, just FYI, there are indeed people in Brussels who can not afford to buy and need to rent. I and many of my colleagues are some of them.

    By :
    Inga
    - Posted on :
    24/12/2012
  • @ Inga
    I think you are guilty of a touch of Obfuscation.
    "How come nobody criticises NATO, OECD, EBRD etc", come on Inga even allowing for a bit of Yuille Tide latitude you are stretching credibility just a little here.

    Let's forget trying to compare, in some cases, Apples with Oranges and cut to the chase. We all have choices in life and you talk about the possibility of having to return home. That Inga is no different from the thousands of people who have drifted to London, Paris, Rome or any big city where the perceived rewards are high as indeed will be the cost of living. Just make sure that you are not jumping from 'the frying pan into the fire'.

    I would suggest that you have a fair amount of job security (not to be sneezed at) and are more than reasonably rewarded compared to many of your peers. You also have a pension scheme that many would bite your hand off for.

    In the Private sector in the UK there will be many 20. 30 and 40 year old workers who do not have a pension scheme of any sort.

    You say that the tax rate in the Czech Republic is a flat-rate 15%. So what is your point? If you live in some of the new EU states you may well find that the many benefits that we take for granted living in advanced economies like perhaps Germany, France or the UK are not available. There is no such thing as a free lunch.

    George Mc

    By :
    George Mc
    - Posted on :
    24/12/2012
  • Congratulations, Mike discovered progresssive tax system! Nobody ever pays top tax rate on ALL of his salary, that is not how it works anywhere.

    In GB the first 8.105 GBP/year (that is 845 EUR/month) is tax-free, as opposed to 110 EUR/month in the EU Institutions. Just to compare.

    Tax rates in certain states (especially the Eastern ones) are much lower and linear. They are often also paid 'per family' and not 'per salary' [spouses declaring income jointly and dividing by 2], which is an important difference for a group where the spouse either is unemployed or earns well below average as the "bloody foreigner" on the local job market.

    Personally, I would prefer my national regime. But applied wholly and not a cherry-picked basis, that is: increases in line with the nationals (as opposed to a salary freeze since mid-2010, which we have 'enjoyed' in reality), all the tax deductibles, joint income declaration with my wife, same health-contribution with the same % of own coverage, and the same pension contribution in return for the same pension scheme. No exceptions, all the same.

    If anybody thinks we are protected from the crisis, just read Gini's post above. Real salary evolution, for example.

    Incredible how WE are blamed because heads of states could not agree, while they have had months to do so!

    Already 30% of EU staff is local, as the conditions are not good enough to attract professionals to emigrate here. That is the best measure of the 'atttractiveness'.

    By :
    Thomas
    - Posted on :
    24/12/2012
  • @Inga
    You just prove my point.

    An extra 5% seems like a lot to a eurocrat who is paying between 8 and13%, but not to a Belgian who is already paying 45% and more. Yet, does this mean that this extra 5% makes a eurocrat paying a lot of taxes?
    Like hell!
    In countries like Belgium, Spain, Germany etc., even citizens making minimum (e.g. cleaning offices) or near-minimum wage (e.g. working in a factory on a temporary contract) pay higher tax rates than a eurocrat pen pusher. Now, that is a disgrace!

    Any eurocrat who fulfills the requirements automatically gets these tax-free fees.
    I have another disappointment for you: in order to enjoy the child fee, one first needs to have a child. True injustice, isn’t it?

    No property speculation in Brussels? You must be joking!
    The 12,5% does not prevent speculation; it just fuels rental prices.
    Brussels is littered with real estate agencies that advertise only in English. They do not even bother advertising in local language!
    Banks like ING have several branches for eurocrats who want to buy property in Brussels and surrounding.
    Check out a site like Homelidays, offering furbished apartments for rent, and contact the owner of the place you are interested in. Nine times out of ten, you will end up talking to a eurocrat, not a Belgian.
    Locals who have to rent, besides spending half their wage on (local) taxes, do not enjoy a 16% expat fee and 5% lodging fee.
    In Brussels, Eurocrats with an appetite for property do NOT have to pay the yearly tax on a secondary home. Any other European citizen, on the contrary, does.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    24/12/2012
  • @Thomas

    Instead of trying to make a joke out of it, read my post carefully.

    The point is:
    - your lower tax rate is lower than any national rate, except for France and the Netherlands;
    - your higher tax rate is lower than any national rate, except for Italy.

    And do not downplay the package of tax-free fees: 16% + 5% + several lump sums are not irrelevant.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    24/12/2012
  • @Thomas

    "Congratulations, Mike discovered progresssive tax system! Nobody ever pays top tax rate on ALL of his salary, that is not how it works anywhere.
    In GB the first 8.105 GBP/year (that is 845 EUR/month) is tax-free, as opposed to 110 EUR/month in the EU Institutions. Just to compare."

    You would like to compare with GB? Fine.
    A lower scale eurocrat, a so-called “technician”, makes € 2654 a month.
    So, his tax-free part is:
    - € 198 base part;
    - € 424,65 expat fee;
    - € 132,7 lodging fee.

    I.e. a total of € 756 a month. That’s NOT the 110 you try to make it appear. actually, it’s rather close to the GB's € 845 a month, probably even higher when you would add the extra tax-free lump sum fees.

    It looks like I have discovered the progressive system a bit too well !

    Cheers,

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    24/12/2012
  • @ mike
    So you say that OECD etc ARE a constant aim of criticism? I certainly missed it in the papers, could you provide some links?

    Comparing "oranges with oranges" would be comparing EU with other internationals, expats and permanent representations. Not many of me peers have to be able to work in two foreign languages, move 1000's of km from home to another country etc. If governemtsn want to have qualified people from across the EU, they need to attract them somehow. And anybody who wants to have my work consitions etc needs only to pass the competition, which is open to every EU citizen. No need to bite one's hand off.

    And congratulations for knowing already what pension I will get in 30+ years, as I do not have a clue. So far each EUR paid out to EU pensioners came from our contributions, and the member states did not pay out anything. Since now the number of pensioners grows but the governments are still not willing to shell out their share, and start to pay up their debt to our pensions system, the pension conditions will certainly deteriorate. I may well receive less in real terms than I paid in. And since the EU is not covered by national laws, including on the minimum wage or pensions, I may well receive less than the minimum pension in my coutrny in the end.

    Let me assure you that in Eastern EU countries they also have police, free schooling, medical access etc.
    My point is that the Belgian system is not the default for [still] most EU employees (still 70% is not local), and many countries have lower rates than Belgium. Would you move to another part of Europe, leaving your current job, home etc. if the conditions offered were in fact worse than what you have there?

    And thanks for worrying about me, but I worked for a decaade in private sector and know it well, any me coutry has low level of unemployemnt. In fact now I can communicate in 4 language (I learnt some French and Dutch since coming to Belgium), and have more qualifications than most assistants. I do not worry :).

    By :
    Inga
    - Posted on :
    26/12/2012
  • @ mike
    5% is for me c. 140 EUR, which is the same amount as for somebody having similar income. What actually matters is the amount that enters the bank account, not the %.
    And people who make the close-to minimal wage pay effectively lower national taxes than we, due to much higher amount of tax-free income. In Luxembourg e.g. there are people working for the EU earning BELOW minimal wage. Their income under the national regime would not be taxed at all, under ours - it is. That is what I call a disgrace!
    I also note your selective approach: according to you we should pay Belgian taxes, but not a word from you about aligning our 11,6% pensions contribution with 0,0% pension contribution of Belgian public sector.

    My advice to you: avoid these English-speaking companies like hell. They only try to take advantage of foreigners in Brussels (not only eurocrats) and one ends up paying a premium. Find somebody who speaks French, go to immoweb.be and rent from a 'local' local market. I also have not met a Eurocrat who rented, and I know over a hundred.

    And 16% expat is of course not paid to Belgians, because their living conditions do not change after they start working for the EU. It is NOT the case for foreigners who already have accomodation in their home country, yet need another here. They have also the disadvantage of moving abroad, their partner either moving along with worse career prospects or staying behind with constant commuting necessity, parents left behind etc. It is already insufficient to encite people to Brussels, as the 1/3 of locals in the Institutions indicates. One wants to have only Belgians [already overrepresnted ten-fold] and Eastern Europeans/Greeks in the EU? Cutting expat is the way to go.

    You also seem to be misinformed: we pay all the local taxes on housing, and the first I heard about 5% 'lodging fee' is from you. Do indicate the source, maybe our HR is not telling us something?
    You are also misinfomred about tax rates in othe EU countries: the maximal rate in Bulgaria is 10%; Cyprus 30%; Croatia 40%; Czech Republic 15%; Estonia 21%, Germany 45%; Greece 45%; Hungary 16%; Ireland 41%; Italy 45%; Latvia 23%; Lithuania 15%, Luxembourg 39%; Malta 35%, Poland 32%; Portugal 47%; Romania 16%; Slovakia 19%; Slovenia 41%. Our higher tax rate, which in practice amounted to 50,5%, and will certainly increase in a few months to higher level from the current 45%, is in fact higher than in vast majority of EU countries. Certain countries have also lower minimal amounts, even if we do not take into account possibility of tax deductions we do not have, possibility to settle together with a spouse we do not have etc.

    By :
    Inga
    - Posted on :
    26/12/2012
  • @Inga

    I believe you are addressing multiple people @mike.
    To set the record straight, as far as I can remember I did not talk about the following topics:
    - OECD
    - your pension scheme
    - you becoming unemployed

    Therefore, I will not go into above topics.

    I did, however, raise the following topics and will reply.

    “Not many of me peers have to be able to work in two foreign languages, move 1000's of km from home to another country etc.”

    First of all, bilingualism isn’t that rare in many European countries and regions, e.g. Belgium, Catalonia,… A lot of immigrants share your faith.

    Second, nobody FORCED you to move “1000s of km from home”. If you apply with a company, it will not pay you an expat fee because you fancy working abroad. However, if a company asks one of its staff to work abroad, that’s a whole different situation! And no employee –whether asked or not– will receive an expat fee his/her lifelong career when he/she stays in the same country. He/she will move to local payroll after a couple of years.

    Third, you are right about other international public servants (diplomats etc.).

    “My point is that the Belgian system is not the default for most EU employees, and many countries have lower rates than Belgium.”

    That may well be. And many countries have higher rates. But, after all, you are working in Belgium, aren’t you?

    “5% is for me c. 140 EUR, which is the same amount as for somebody having similar income. What actually matters is the amount that enters the bank account, not the %.”

    But it IS the percentage that matters! Why else would we be comparing progressive tax systems?
    Unless I understand you wrong, you are saying that it would be fine if you and a multi-billionaire would each pay € 140.

    “And people who make the close-to minimal wage pay effectively lower national taxes than we, due to much higher amount of tax-free income.”

    In my reply to Thomas I have proven this claim to be wrong.

    “In Luxembourg e.g. there are people working for the EU earning BELOW minimal wage. Their income under the national regime would not be taxed at all, under ours - it is.”

    Again, cfr. my reply to Thomas: contrary to a local making minimum wage, the Eurocrat minimum wager makes more once you add the fees he/she is cashing in tax-free. Only in Eurocrat land, I believe, net exceeds a gross.
    And I do not even go into the number of holidays, including the so-called “free-days”, Eurocrats have, and a local minimum wages does not.

    “I also note your selective approach: according to you we should pay Belgian taxes, but not a word from you about aligning our 11,6% pensions contribution with 0,0% pension contribution of Belgian public sector.”

    I am not selective in my approach. Nor do I work in the Belgian public sector. I am sorry for not criticizing the Belgium public servants in this forum as well.

    “My advice to you: avoid these English-speaking companies like hell.”

    One can avoid these property agencies, but not their patrimony. When the EU will be extended, thousands of natives more will be pushed out of Brussels overnight.

    “You also seem to be misinformed: we pay all the local taxes on housing, and the first I heard about 5% 'lodging fee' is from you. Do indicate the source, maybe our HR is not telling us something?”

    No, you do NOT pay the tax on secondary homes. You just do not! Any Brussels commune will tell.

    Of course, I provide you the source for the “lodging fee”: http://ec.europa.eu/civil_service/job/official/index_en.htm.

    In official terms it is called “household fee”. And, yes, Eurocrats DO receive it!
    And, no, I am not referring to the “dependent child allowance”. And even then, if you do happen to know over a hundred of Eurocrats who do not have children and do not cash in this fee does not mean it doesn’t exist!

    "You are also misinformed about tax rates in other EU countries: the maximal rate in Bulgaria is 10%; Cyprus 30%; Croatia 40%; Czech Republic 15%; Estonia 21%, Hungary 16%; Ireland 41%; Latvia 23%; Lithuania 15%, Luxembourg 39%; Malta 35%, Poland 32%; Romania 16%; Slovakia 19%; Slovenia 41%. Our higher tax rate, which in practice amounted to 50,5%"

    No, in a progressive system 45% + 5,5% does not equal 50,5%. It is less.
    Besides, the 5.5% levy is not applied to the base salary. It is applied to the base salary minus social security & pension contributions and an amount equal to “the basic salary of an official in grade 1”.

    Above, I have taken liberty to eliminate countries that have a higher or equal rate.
    Countries like Czech Republic, Romania etc. do not use a progressive but a flat tax system: everybody, low as well as high earners, pay the same percentage.
    Given that the bulk of Eurocrats (including yourself, as you insinuate) pay a rate that does not even exceed 13%, you might end up worse in Czech Republic, Romania, Latvia, Lithuania and Slovakia!
    Think twice about what you are asking for, I would say.

    That leaves us with Luxembourg, Cyprus, Malta,…
    Comparing the whole of the EU with tax heavens like Luxembourg, Cyprus and Malta is ridiculous. How on Earth could the EU afford income tax rates the way Luxembourg and peers are doing? The EU as a global tax heaven? Now that’s a thought.

    The list becomes small, doesn’t it?
    You could, of course, make your point by saying that Slovenia and Ireland, with 41%, and Croatia, with 40%, are lower than the 45%.

    I do not work with the EU and have to rely on sparse official documents –I do not use tabloids. You, on the contrary, have all the figures by hand.
    I am fed up with talking to Eurocrats who hide information and bluntly deny the facts. You make me look up things over and over in order to refute your denial.

    I just hope that David Cameron will be in excellent shape when he will have to deal with Europe’s Pride.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    26/12/2012
  • Indeed, my first post was to mc.

    And to address some points: EC requires not bilinguism, but at least tri-linguism :) In my experience most Europeans speak better or worse English, and Britons speak nothing else. By the way, what are your other languages, maybe next time we may switch to sth else as this Eglish all the time is getting boring.

    Secondly, indeed nobody may be forced to move to Brussels and people choose to expat. They choose, as mc correctly remarked, because of a 'reward' - to get sth better they have at home. Why should a German lawyer, French auditor or British PA move 1000 of km for conditions similar to the one round the corner? Let us just see how many Germans emigrate to work in France and vice versa, how many Britons emigrate to work in the Netherlands and vice versa... The numbers are not impressive... One would end up with EU consisting of Belgians, Easterners and some Southerners. In fact, that is already observable.
    And countries do not ask individual persons, but they do want their citizens to be present in the EU. E.g. UK, Germany or Netherlands have a team of officials preparing their nationals for competitions; Italy recently brought a case against EPSO for using language which placed Italians in worse situation than e.g. French.

    Thirdly, national taxes with rates over 15% are also pogressive, and people do not pay the top rate from the first EUR earned (on which they do not pay incme tax at all), no matter what you claim. 50,5% is higher than e.g. 10%, 32% or even 41%. Nationals also have deductibles, we do not have, and tax-free income, often much higher than ours (It exists also e.g. in Czech Rep. with 15% flat rate).
    Also not everybody in the EU gets any allowances (such as expat, child allowance). Some EU employees indeed bring home below the minimum official wage [I also looked into your link and do not see reference to 'household fee' or any other 5% allowance. I get only expat and have a household. ?]
    Nota bene after the cuts apparently also the EU secretaries may need a 'husband to support them', as one MEP said. Well, in my homeland I could support myself and will not stay here if I can not make a living :).

    In summary, some people pay less than they effectively would under their national regime and some pay more. In no way are our taxes per definition lower and "only Italy has a rate that is lower (43%)."

    Even the lowest 8%+5,5%=13,5%, and it does steeply progress with income. So to claim that our rate does not even exceed 13%... really.

    I alos asked a collegaue who bought -first and only- appartment in brussels and she was surprised by your claim: she paid the tax on purchase and pays cadaster every year. Check your data again.

    And indeed, do not get started on annual leave as I've had enough on data manipulation an othis one. For info, everybody has 24 days and 70% gets on avergae additional 4, whihc brings the ttoal average to 26,8 days. IMHO not impressive. And now I am using some of them for a break, so will not post for some time.

    Finally, I am certain that Cameron will get his way. For all the speech about high-earners, the cut proposals affect the low grades than the high ones. And the Council, i.e. national politicians, will be happy to go with them as some may come to Brussels as the next Commissioner, but certainly not as an assistant. Just do not hold you breath waiting for proposal to cut the College of Commissioners from the 28 to more reasonable number.

    By :
    Inga
    - Posted on :
    27/12/2012
  • And finally finally: EU's problem is not 'sparse' provisions of data, as everything is on the web and you freely use it. It is transparent.

    On the other hand, other internationals, PermReps etc. have better conditions to compensate and attract, but just do not publish them. For example, I am positive you -whoever now reads it- do not know what are the working conditions in your national Permanent Representation to the EU, UN etc. Bye.

    By :
    Inga
    - Posted on :
    27/12/2012
  • You are right: let us stop this one-on-one discussion. This is a thread. Someone else should join before we continue.

    “In my experience most Europeans speak better or worse English, and Britons speak nothing else. By the way, what are your other languages, maybe next time we may switch to sth else as this Eglish all the time is getting boring.”

    This thread happens to be on Euractiv’s English version. We could continue it on the French version if you like.
    Feel free to communicate in French, Dutch, German, Spanish or Italian. I am sorry if I may make a mistake once in a while –I have studied Applied Sciences, not Languages or Linguistics (and doesn’t it show?).

    “And countries do not ask individual persons, but they do want their citizens to be present in the EU.”

    That is correct. You are right.

    “Thirdly, national taxes with rates over 15% are also pogressive, and people do not pay the top rate from the first EUR earned (on which they do not pay incme tax at all), no matter what you claim.”

    I am sorry to say that what I claim is right.

    You are referring to the 15% of Czech Republic, aren’t you? It IS a flat rate. It is NOT a progressive rate system as there is but one tax rate: 15%.

    Eurocrats also have a tax-free part: 109,84 €/month.
    On top of this, all your fees are tax-free as well and, therefore, should be added to your tax-free part.

    “I also looked into your link and do not see reference to 'household fee' or any other 5% allowance.”

    Drop down to the section “Allowances” and click on the link. On Page 52, read article 67: household allowance.

    “50,5% is higher than e.g. 10%, 32% or even 41%.”
    & “Even the lowest 8%+5,5%=13,5%, and it does steeply progress with income. So to claim that our rate does not even exceed 13%... really.”

    Every rate is applied to a salary slice. The rates are not added up and applied to total salary. 40,5% applied to the upper part plus 5,5% applied to the lower part do not equal 50,5% applied to total salary.
    This way, the overall rate is lower than the sum of the individual rates. Even a Eurocrat making 4.243 €/month pays only an overall rate of 11%.

    (Besides, if I am not mistaken: the percentages are calculated on your salary MINUS social security & pension contributions.)

    “I alos asked a collegaue who bought -first and only- appartment in Brussels and she was surprised by your claim: she paid the tax on purchase and pays cadaster every year. Check your data again.”

    I am NOT talking about a first home, the one where one lives in. I am talking about speculation, about Eurocrats buying MORE than one property: any Belgian who does this will have to pay a tax. Eurocrats are exempted of this tax by law (May 16th 1966).
    Even a Eurocrat renting a second place in Brussels (maybe he is renting and/or owning one or more places in Brussels or elsewhere) does not pay a yearly tax.

    “Just do not hold you breath waiting for proposal to cut the College of Commissioners from the 28 to more reasonable number."

    Indeed, this website reveals the EU to be a caste system. With maharajahs on top: the Commission and its staff seem to be untouchable.

    European citizens, both in the private and public sector, have to take salary cuts and/or face unemployment. Yet, at the same time Eurocrats get rid of a 5,5% tax rate.

    In these harsh times, a Prime Minister wants the EU budget NOT to increase. He can/may not tell the EU how to maintain its budget.

    Apparently, your employers (first Kinnock, now Van Rompuy) maintain their budget by targeting the lower scaled and last joined staff.

    Perhaps that says more about your employers and the Europe they are creating than about the PM and taxpayers criticising it.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    27/12/2012
  • "a Prime Minister wants the EU budget NOT to increase. He can/may not tell the EU how to maintain its budget.

    Apparently, your employers (first Kinnock, now Van Rompuy) maintain their budget by targeting the lower scaled and last joined staff.

    Perhaps that says more about your employers and the Europe they are creating than about the PM and taxpayers criticising it"

    You seem to be misled - Cameron et consortes decide not only how much will be spent, but also -to the last EUR- how. Read the blue box on the left.

    By :
    mc2
    - Posted on :
    03/01/2013
  • @mc2

    Thanks for clarifying, but I still do not see how Cameron and consorts would be targeting some staff more than other.

    In these and other Euractiv threads, Eurocrats lament on differences among staff. In particular, differences between so-called pre and post Kinnock staff, between Commission and other staff, between permanent and temporary employees.

    As far as I can gather, Cameron proposes measures that apply to ALL staff.

    I quote:
    - “cutting the OVERALL European Union pay bill by 10%”;
    - “lowering the pension cap from 70% of AN official’s salary to 60%”.

    Cameron and consorts do not seem to be targeting any specific category of staff.

    Only their proposal to lift the pension age of staff currently under 53 will hit post-Kinnock staff more than their pre-Kinnock colleagues. Older EU staff is more likely to be working with the EU before Kinnock’s reform came into existence.

    I also find it hard to believe that a PM of a country is to work out the details of the EU’s administration budget. As you indicate, the PM’s might very well decide how money will be spent and/or cut, but who proposes this spending and/or these cuts?

    For example, is it Cameron himself who designed the new pay scales, resulting in an 18% salary cut for secretarial staff?

    No, this is a proposal of M. Sefcovic’s, the EU commissioner for Administration.

    Again, neither a sceptic EU citizen nor a PM is likely to push for discrimination among EU staff.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    03/01/2013
  • No, the Council proposals do not affect all equally.
    They are more detailed than quoted here, and e.g. the 'overall' 10% cut does not mean cutting wage of a Director and his secretary by the same 10%.
    For example, Council's proposal to slower promotions and introduce caps targets directly those at the bottom. The proposal to introduce payments for EU school (thus the Eurocrat children will be the only ones in the EU without access to free education, unless they happen to be fluent in French or Dutch) targets younger people, i.e. also newcomers [average new recruit is already 34 years old.]. Etc.

    And of course countries are happy to discriminate in favour of 'their' officials. It is no coincidence that the Kinnock Reform was implemented on exactly the same day as the EU10 accession, i.e. 01.05.2004. Thus, old MS ensured that the 'old' -their- employees will be well ahead in comparison with those from the new MSs, which could not be employed before that date.
    Now some MSs, including UK, have more Directors than secretaries. And "58" was not a threshold chosen at random...

    My advice is that you read how the EU law is made, e.g. here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legislature_of_the_European_Union
    The Commission only proposes legislation. Once it is on the table the Council [=all governments] and the Parliament rewrite and adopt it as they choose. It applies also to the staff regulations, including the salary grid, allowances etc.

    I bet that when you hear your politicians complaining about some 'law from Brussels', they never tell you that its final content does not depend on Barroso and comp., but themselves and their political -and directly elected- colleagues from the EP.

    Bye

    By :
    mc2
    - Posted on :
    04/01/2013
  • Thanks for clarifying.

    You are right: national politicians never stress their role in the “laws from Brussels”.

    Yet, when the EU institutions propose detailed measures towards their own staff (cfr. Sefcovic), one can hardly blame national politicians for not digging out everything all over again.

    “countries are happy to discriminate in favour of 'their' officials”
    Again, one would expect both MEP’s and EU officials, of all people, to defend the Great European Idea.

    “the Eurocrat children will be the only ones in the EU without access to free education”
    I guess that € 100,5 million for an EU school, next to the royal palace, was a bit OTT. Soon, EU school no. 5 will go up.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    08/01/2013
  • Wasn't the original point of the article that our national politicians on the Council of Ministers are responsible for the increase in take home pay? That it is their lack of diligence which created the situation despite all their shouting from the rooftops about reducing the costs of EU administration.

    By :
    Eleanor
    - Posted on :
    08/01/2013
  • Indeed it was.
    So let us hope that one of them, David Cameron, will soon set this straight (and do a lot more than merely reintroduce the solidarity tax).

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    09/01/2013
Background: 

A European summit on 22-23 November failed to agree on the EU's budget for the next seven years (2014-2020) as divergences remained over the extent of cuts to be made to the bloc's finances.

Ahead of the summit, Cameron called for:

  • Cutting the overall EU pay bill by 10% for officials, saving €3 billion.
  • Increasing the retirement age to 68 for all EU officials now under the age of 58. The current retirement age is 63. This
  • would save €1.5 billion.
  • Lowering the pension cap from 70% of an official's final salary to 60%, saving €1.5 billion.

Cameron made great play of the fact that 16% of Commission employees earn over €123,440 per year, and the British press wrote that 3,000 EU officials earn more than the British Prime Minister.

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