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Germany floats 'plan B' – a budget deal without Britain

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Published 23 November 2012

Germany has raised the pressure on British Prime Minister David Cameron to seek an agreement on the EU's long-term budget at a summit in Brussels today (23 November), by floating an alternative deal that would sideline Britain and neutralise its veto.

EU sources have fleshed out reports circulating last week about a plan to sideline the United Kingdom from ongoing budget talks, as Cameron threatened to veto a deal on the EU budget.

The plan, a last-resort option, originated in Berlin two weeks ago according to a reliable EU source, who spoke to EurActiv on condition of anonymity.

>> Read: Officials seek ways to bypass Britain's EU budget veto threat

It is aimed at forcing Cameron back to the negotiation table after European Council President Herman Van Rompuy tabled a revised proposal last night which kept the EU's overall spending ceiling unchanged, at €973 billion over the next seven years (2014-2020). 

German Chancellor Angela Merkel told reporters after a first day of mostly one-on-one meetings that a deal this week seemed unlikely as positions were still too far apart.

"I believe that we will move forward a little tomorrow but I have my doubts that we will achieve a result," she said. "There is a high likelihood of a second stage."

If confirmed today, the 'plan B' would work in two steps.

  • First, EU leaders, recognising the impossibility of finding an agreement at 27, would issue a statement at today's meeting saying budget talks will resume in January 2013, at another summit.
  • In the meantime, they would reach a political agreement on the bloc's long-term finances – without the UK – and confirm it at the January summit.

Although not an official decision, the political agreement would allow the EU to continue funding itself "as if the MFF had been agreed," the source said, referring to the bloc's long-term budget, the Multi-annual Financial Framework.

The idea, which emanated from Berlin, was approved by Paris although the French had reservations, according to the same source. Crucially, Sweden and the Netherlands, which were initially reluctant, would now be willing to come on board.

Berlin lawyers have scrutinised the deal in detail and believe that the move would not fall into an EU act that could be challenged before the European Court of Justice, leaving Britain isolated.

Herman Van Rompuy tables revised budget proposal

The compromise tabled by Herman Van Rompuy last night restored about €8 billion from earlier farm spending cuts, in an effort to win France's approval. In a gesture to Poland and other Central and East European states, the revised blueprint also restores more than €10 billion for cohesion funds for poorer regions.

The total reduction from the original European Commission proposal is about €80 billion, still too little for Cameron, who came under intense pressure from his Parliament to deliver a real terms cut in the EU budget.

British officials have refused to give precise figures, but the cuts are unlikely to be enough to satisfy Britain, which has called for reductions in the range of €100-200 billion from the European Commission's original blueprint.

Van Rompuy's room for manoeuvre to make deeper cuts is limited however by the demands of other EU countries, some of which have called for a more ambitious EU budget.

Up to 11 countries have until now threatened to wield a veto on the EU budget if their demands were not met.

'What the hell is happening with Britain?'

EU officials accept that Cameron needs some kind of gesture if he is to win the support of Britain's Eurosceptic Parliament. Any proposal to reduce the British rebate for instance may have to be abandoned to win Britain's backing at the summit.

But another British veto, less than a year after Cameron blocked a fiscal discipline treaty in the eurozone, would further isolate Britain in Europe and could increase pressure for it to leave the EU.

"Many countries are asking themselves what the hell is happening with Britain? Is it on its way out? In which case, why should we make major concessions?" said one EU official at the summit, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Next steps: 
  • 23 Nov.: Second day of European Council meeting
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COMMENTS

  • YES! BRAVO! ISOLATE "THE CITY",THE FED &c.; and their toady-puppet Cameron. They offer nothing but "fictitious capital".

    IF they can, they will stick it to the 99% I.e. paper and electronic fraud designed to cheat those whose ENTERPRENEUR led LABOUR is the source of any/all REAL value, capital included.

    Send him packing; let them LEAVE with no alternative but to rid Europe of an almost automatic habitual VETO.

    By :
    david tarbuck
    - Posted on :
    23/11/2012
  • The British people have had enough of the EU. That is what the hell is wrong with Britain.

    The British people are asking the very same question: what the hell is wrong with the EU? They seem to be addicted to the Chinese model of centralised command and cold hearted neoliberal economics.

    To a country that freed Europe from itself around 70 years ago it is a scary concept.

    By :
    Matthew Thompson
    - Posted on :
    23/11/2012
  • It is devastating to see many European politicians operating mentally in the 19th century, zero-sum-game framework. In the past, at least when Europe was in crisis, we managed to act for common good - why can't we now?
    The Commission has not done enough to tell Europeans that over 85% of EU budget goes back to member states !! Very poor communication with EU citizens, who think that most of this money is spent on Eurocrats.
    After having reached years ago an agreement that EU budget could go to max.1.27% of MS's GDP - which was never achieved - now insisting on its freeze is more than disappointing.
    Where are all the Brussels think tanks, Friends of Europe, national and regional NGOs? Where are the independent media? BBC - till now the best, reported last night that 80% of EU budget goes for agriculture and rural areas - as if nothing of this comes back to UK (10.6 bn € for 2007-2013)? The unprincipled "rebate" wasn't mentioned.
    B.Cizelj - Knowledge Economy Network, KEN

    By :
    Boris Cizelj
    - Posted on :
    23/11/2012
  • Where are we talking about? This article shows it clearly: htttp://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/europaeische-union/eu-finanzrahmen-nach-den-butterbergen-kam-das-flaechengeld-11968595.html
    In fact, on 510 million citizens 318 euro's per capita per year.
    Is this not a mere circusact, behind which the real problems are kept out of the focus of EU citizens?

    If that's the nowadays EU, what may be expected from those circus actors to address the real problems?

    By :
    Willem, a Dutchman
    - Posted on :
    23/11/2012
  • The UK leaving the EU would create an interesting new dynamic within the EU

    Minus the UK the EU would undoubtedly hurtle towards a super state like structure, with centralised powers even more distant from the man on the street and subsuming national identities in the process, which could become problematic later on: think USSR, Yugoslavia.

    The EU would become very heavily dominated by France and Germany who will be much freer to impose their vision on Europe. It's a fact that smaller European countries often favour the UK presence to an extent to offset French / German influence and to protect their interests.

    Germany, Netherlands, Sweden & Denmark, which are economically liberal in view would lose a valuable ally to counterbalance France's and the Latin countries' obsession with protectionism and over-regulation of the economy.

    The EU would no longer be able to become a major military power as Germany is essentially pacifist and other than France none of the other European countries have militaries of any real significance or capability.

    The EU would lose significant scientific and technological capability in terms of aerospace, military technologies, pharmaceuticals for instance where the UK is a world leader as it is in a number of scientific areas.

    The risk of letting an EU member depart, particularly one of its largest ones, is that it opens the prospect for others to go. It will undoubtedly represent a huge blow to the EU's prestige on the international stage and will open speculation over the future of the EU itself.

    Speculation over the future of the EU could have huge ramifications for investors' views on the survival of the Eurozone, which ultimately I don't believe will be able to survive anyway as the economic tensions & disparities are too great. However, the Eurozone needs to last just long enough for the rest of the world to try insulate itself from the fall-out of its eventual demise.

    On a more practical level the northern countries would have to make up for the loss of the UK's budget contributions among themselves or impose cuts on the net recipients – that debate would be highly acrimonious. Even with the rebate the UK is a very significant contributor to the EU's budget.

    And ultimately the big question is whether other Europeans countries could live with a situation where much of their policy is essentially made in Berlin and imposed via Brussels. Because eventually Germany will steadily dominate France and that has been happening since the financial crisis – this a major power shift that has come about as a result of the Eurozone crisis.

    Greater integration will also accentuate differences and unleash power struggles within the EU.

    Once the emotions have calmed down I suspect a UK departure is something the rest of the EU would prefer not to contemplate for all the above reasons, even if it means giving the UK some sort of alternate status within the EU.

    By :
    Justin Pugsley, Principal, JJPAssociates
    - Posted on :
    23/11/2012
  • Why is this always about Britain? France is just as obstructionist, blocking any moves to modify the disastrous common agricultural policy, while other countries do the same with the CFP.... I agree the UK can be awkward, but no more than some others..

    By :
    Alasdair Cameron
    - Posted on :
    23/11/2012
  • @Justin Pugsley
    The effect of Britain leaving is that the pot gets smaller. Not that other countries have to pay what Britain would hypothetically have paid.

    As to whether the rest of the EU "would prefer not to contemplate" a UK departure, I think this article says it all. Germany very clearly had a UK exit on its mind when it vetoed the EADS deal. The main consequence of a UK exit would be to move the centre of power of Europe further east, with Germany, Poland and the Scandinavian countries playing a far greater role. It may also accelerate Turkish membership.

    I believe most investors would welcome a UK departure as it would remove a large element of the uncertainty which is hanging over the EU.

    By :
    Patrick
    - Posted on :
    23/11/2012
  • The reason why a single country can veto an agreement by 26 other countries is the perpetuation, in the Lisbon treaty, of the rule of unanimity for such decisions as the MFF, own ressources, banking supervision, etc ... and Treaty revision.

    Instead of repeatedly bypassing such rule by extra-EU "political agreements" or extra-EU "treaties" - whose legality and practicality remain doubtful - it would be more sensible to open a treaty revision procedure (which requires a single majority of 14 member states).

    Such revision would aim not only at suppressing the veto rule but also at providing at last a sound constitutional basis for the EMU and fill the left-overs of the Lisbon Treaty.

    If all -or quasi all - member States would agree on the terms of such a revision as proposed by a democratic Convention, reluctant rogue States could decide to opt out from the new treaty under article 60 TEU . JGG

    By :
    Jean-Guy Giraud
    - Posted on :
    23/11/2012
  • I meant article 50 TEU (article 60 is its twin in the Constitutional Treaty) .JGG

    By :
    Jean-Guy Giraud
    - Posted on :
    23/11/2012
  • It will also fail. Merkel and her Northern allies needed Cameron in fact to push for budget cuts that are purely ideologically motivated. For those familiar with German politics, Cameron was her "CSU": a euroskeptic scarecrow necessary to coax opponents to accept the changes that the (provisory) "majority" wanted, "for the sake of consensus". But the Empress is naked: the budget is automatically prolongated in case MFF fails, and Cameron will immediately veto any ad-hoc arrangement of 26, because he will lose his rebate.
    All that Merkel wants is to reduce the budget so that she can cater to the CSU's euroskeptic voters at home. Bu the budget needs to be increased!
    Merkel will find Southern Countries, Eastern Countries, the EU Commission, the EU Parliament and FRANCE on her way! AND THIS TIME SHE WILL FAIL! LONG LIVE EUROPE! DOWN WITH MERKEL!

    By :
    Charles
    - Posted on :
    23/11/2012
  • @ Justin Pugsley
    Certainly an official departure of the UK from the EU would be a severe symbolic blow. Would others follow? I don't think there is another country which refers as "Europe" as something it is geographically outside of and that rants as much against Brussel socialist eurocrats as the UK. There is no country that ranted about getting (at least) its money back ten years after joining the club. Maybe the Czechs or the Finns. But it doesnt seem to me that any has developed the same brand of metaphysical hatred of "Brussels".
    What we are seeing, with the Europe " à la carte", where every country chooses what to opt into and out of, and which Cameron only envisions as an electoral alternative to an outright "no", is really the unraveling of the very spirit of Delors's "Single" European Act.

    By :
    Charles
    - Posted on :
    23/11/2012
  • Ich bin ein B-planner

    By :
    oatka
    - Posted on :
    24/11/2012
  • Britain is right to demand cuts in the EU budget !
    Cannot anybody see the the EU is living beyond its means , that countries are going bankrupt , but the EU Commission has to spend more . It is time to draw a halt to EU spendthrift policies . It does not work for individual nations to make unrealistic financial demands , or for the EU to promise more than it can afford .
    The EU has taken in impoverished former Eastern Block countries who seek to join for the financial handout
    "Carrot" to become members and so exstend the EU market . The problem is that their isn't enough money to finance such projects .
    The Euro has robbed a number of countries with lesser economies of their ability to compete on equal terms with Germany and more industrialised northern states .
    EU and national leaders in their collectivism are rushing like lemmings towards a cliff of financial disaster .
    As one who has lived in Italy and has many friends in countries all over Europe , I can tell you that many intelligent people in other member states look to Britain for sound judgement . Britain is seen a country that has had uninterupted stable government over centuries , which few if any other EU states have had .

    By :
    David Barneby
    - Posted on :
    24/11/2012
  • B cizelj
    " Where are all the Brussels think tanks,The friends of Europe , national and regional NGOs?"
    The EU wastes a huge amount of money on Think Tanks and forward planning , that gives staff a job to do ; the results of which maybe inline with the course the EU commission aims to take , but not necessarily acceptible to member states .
    The EU spends a huge amount on propaganda , but not even the BBC can change the mental attitude of the British people to the EU .

    By :
    David Barneby
    - Posted on :
    24/11/2012
  • @David Barneby - Posted on : 24/11/2012

    Yeah Indeed ! UK should leave the EU immediately before the EU goes Bankrupt and have too many Eurosceptizissm on our whole backs glued permanently !

    By :
    an european
    - Posted on :
    25/11/2012
  • The U K was always an "A La Carte Member" of the E U. I t fails to see that the E U is a mutual member society. It always negotiated (in a political sense) looking up the barrel of the gun or looking down the barrel of a gun. This was always the way it did business since it was an imperial power. It fails to see the unseen tangible benefits that has accrued to the U K since the (still) evolving E U came into being. For example The U K army now is a shadow of its former self . Its navy has no aircraft carrier. A situation unthinkable if the E U as a political entity did not exist. It's about time the U K woke up and looked at the bigger picture and decide if it will be a fully participating member or resign is membership and go it alone. It will not do this because the bankrollers of the Con. party (big industry) knows and demands that the U K stay in Europe.

    By :
    William Patrick Fagan
    - Posted on :
    30/11/2012
  • The U K was always an "A La Carte Member" of the E U. I t fails to see that the E U is a mutual member society. It always negotiated (in a political sense) looking up the barrel of the gun or looking down the barrel of a gun. This was always the way it did business since it was an imperial power. It fails to see the unseen tangible benefits that has accrued to the U K since the (still) evolving E U came into being. For example The U K army now is a shadow of its former self . Its navy has no aircraft carrier. A situation unthinkable if the E U as a political entity did not exist. It's about time the U K woke up and looked at the bigger picture and decide if it will be a fully participating member or resign is membership and go it alone. It will not do this because the bankrollers of the Con. party (big industry) knows and demands that the U K stay in Europe.

    By :
    William Patrick Fagan
    - Posted on :
    30/11/2012
Angela Merkel, German Federal Chancellor, arrives in Brussels for bilateral meetings on the EU budget (Photo: European Council)
Background: 

At roughly €130 billion a year, the EU's annual budget is equivalent to around 1% of EU national wealth, or €244 per EU citizen.

The European Commission proposes raising it to an annual €146 billion over the next seven-year period (2014-2020), or €1.025 trillion in total. But austerity-minded national leaders want a much leaner spending plan.

>> Read: EU budget 2014-2020: The €1 trillion deal

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