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Published 23 May 2013, updated 24 May 2013

Workers in EU institutions are preparing to go on strike on 5 June if the European Council, where member states sit, get the upper hand in a proposed reform of the institutions’ staff regulations. Trade unions described the Council position as the “most serious attack” on civil servants’ incomes the EU has ever seen.

A meeting of EU institutional staff was held on Thurdsay (23 May) in the European Commission’s flagship Berlaymont building, with hundreds of current and former employees gathering in front of the canteen.

Negotiations on a new staff regulation are expected to conclude by 18 June, and trade unions have flexed their muscle by convening a general meeting on 30 May at 10 a.m. to keep staff informed of any further action.

Speakers at the meeting said the pay cuts proposed by the Council would be “dramatic”.

“It will be a reduction of 1.6% per year on average. We will have a 6% reduction of the lowest salaries because of a new levy. The pensions will be reduced by some 35% for newcomers. It is the most serious attack we have ever seen,” said one EU staffer.

If their demands are not met during forthcoming talks between the three EU institutions – the European Council, Parliament and Commission – all EU staff will go on strike on 5 June, trade unionists said.

According to another EU staffer, the Commission and Parliament may be firm in the negotiations, but could also accept compromise.

“That’s why we want to have pressure from staff. If we have the Commission, the Parliament and the staff against the Council, we hope to win the battle,” he said.

General action threatened

Trade unions insisted that it was important to have staff mobilised in all institutions, including the Economic and Social Committee, the Council of Regions, the various agencies, and not only in the Council, as it has previously been the case.

“We have seen many press articles saying only the staff of the Council is on strike, as if the others are not interested. It looks like the staff of the Council is crazy and thinks catastrophe is coming, while the other institutions are more serious and realise it’s not the case. No, because if Coreper wins the battle, it will be catastrophe for all of us,” a speaker said, referring to the ambassador-level Council body which deals with hundreds of EU regulations.

Activists made a call to Commission Vice President Maroš Šefčovič, in charge of administration.

“You are nearing the end of your term. Please realise that you are holding in your hand the future of thousands of colleagues. Please don’t go to the negotiations with the mentality of obtaining an agreement,” the group said to Šefčovič, who was not present and whose office is in the same building.

It would be much better if Šefčovič has the courage of withdrawing the Commission proposal, one activist said.

EU employees have carried out several protests in recent months as the European institutions have faced pressure from national leaders to cut their operating costs.

Next steps: 
  • 30 May: EU staff hold general assembly
  • 5 June: Possible strike in EU institutions
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COMMENTS

  • Most of us here in the UK (and I am sure across the rest of the EU) have seen a fall in our living standards and disposable income since 2008. We see our pension and other welfare provision becoming less generous and many of us recognise that given the state of public finances there is precious little alternative, unless of course you want to increase the rate of taxation once more, borrowing no longer being a realistic option. Although as I understand it, the tax EU staff pay is significantly lower than that faced by the rest of us so maybe they wouldn’t mind tax increases for the general public.

    If the EU staff want to go on strike and forgo a day’s pay let them help themselves. Generally speaking for a strike to have an impact someone has to notice that you have withdrawn your labour, I seriously doubt any of us would notice if the Berlaymont Building was silent for months.

    We are all facing austerity; I personally don’t see a drop in income of 1.6% on average as a particularly big figure. Ask the people in Greece, Spain, Ireland etc. (let alone here) how they would feel about a fall of only 1.6%. However I do wonder why the 6% cut is concentrated on the lower pay scales rather than those who could more reasonably afford it.

    By :
    Iwantout
    - Posted on :
    24/05/2013
  • The 24/7 Party people go on strike,again?

    "You gotta fight
    for you right
    to paaarrrtttyyy !"

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    24/05/2013
  • Brussels, May 24th 2013

    Dear Mr. Šefčovič,

    When deciding on the EU staff regulations, please consider the 500,000,000 people you work for, not just the 55,000 you work with.
    It might give the EU some credibility.

    Yours sincerely,

    Mike

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    24/05/2013
  • I think it would be a significant and symbolic example to accept the cuts in the name of AUSTERITY...

    Some of the overhead should be reduced, simply put- in terms of being efficient, as this also has been happening across the board in so many EU countries.

    Perhaps the word empathy comes to mind.

    By :
    mfd
    - Posted on :
    24/05/2013
  • Mr. Iwantout,
    thank you for your calm and reasonable comment (the subject is normally discussed as it was a football match in a Pub).
    Let me explain some details.
    The 1.6% loss is not one-shot, but it is planned and codified in the proposed regulations for the next 20 years.
    And worst of all, it is an average between old staff recruted before 2004 (that loses very little) and the one recruted after 2004 (that loses 3 times more).
    I made some calculations for myself.
    I am 40yo and have been working for very important companies before joining the EU 5 years ago.
    As it was after 2004, I was recruted 3 levels below the competition I successfully passed (meaning that each year ma salary is roughly 30% less than my older colleagues - and when I say older I mean 5 years older).
    It was my decision to accept that and I don't regret it.
    But now, just 8 years after, they say that it is not enough and I have to accept another 25% cut.
    Not a single category (except maybe in Greece, but I don't live in Greece...) lost 50% because of the crisis.
    Of course you can say that everything depends on the initial salary, but in my case (IT manager) is perfectly aligned with the market.
    What I cannot accept is not the idea of losing, let's say, 20% one shot. I find morally unacceptable that they fix in a law that doesn't matter what I do, in 15 years from now my salary will be lower that my entry salary (in the private sector) after graduation.
    Would you personally work in this situation? Of course not, and that leads to the reason behind the scene.
    This fight is led by the UK, your Country, with the complacent help of Germany. Since UK cannot leave the EU without nasty consequences on its economy, the perfect strategy is to demotivate and force EU people to leave. You must admit that this is cowardy.

    By :
    Emanuele
    - Posted on :
    24/05/2013
  • I forgot to answer one of the questions:
    "However I do wonder why the 6% cut is concentrated on the lower pay scales rather than those who could more reasonably afford it".

    The technical reason is that we had until 2012 a special leave of 5%, but calculated only on the salary exceeding the minimum salary of an AST1.
    The new levy could be 6%, but calculated on the entire salary AND allowances.

    Of course lower salaries will be more impacted, and you ask (politically) why. I don't have the answer, but you should ask mr. Cameron, that in many occasion publicily expressed his hatred for the average worker.

    By :
    Emanuele
    - Posted on :
    24/05/2013
  • ...and last but not least, austerity was decided by Heads of States... Commission Staff MUST execute what the Council and the Parliament decide.
    So blame them for the "austerity" in Member States or thinking that they "deserve punishment" is just another populist and offensive idea.

    By :
    Emanuele
    - Posted on :
    24/05/2013
  • Mr. Mike, I see that you spend a lot of time posting comments everywhere without any constructive or informative meaning: you just express your frustration and gut feelings.
    Whatever is the reason, I am sincerly sorry for your personal situation. However, my suggestion is to use your time in a more productive way, like enrolling in an online course, reading books and in general trying to improve YOUR skills and work situation instead of pushing for lowering other people's.
    I thought that was an Italian characteristic (I am Italian, I can be politically uncorrect...), but I see that it is not.

    By :
    Emanuele
    - Posted on :
    24/05/2013
  • @Emanuele

    I am born and raised in Brussels. I have seen most of my peers being pushed out of the city by Eurocrats.
    So, yes, there is a lot of frustration.

    No matter how much I will improve my skills, Eurocrats, enjoying offshore-like tax rates as they are, will always have the upper hand. Many extremely highly-skilled Europeans from countries like Spain and your home country who came to Brussels for a job have found out in the meantime.

    The EU Staff Regulation reform leaves the Eurocrat tax system untouched.

    Of course, you won't consider this remark, which is rather spot on, as informative since it doesn't suit you.

    By the way, isn't it odd that Eurocrats -who should embody the European thought- always try to pinpoint nationalities when participating in this forum?

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    24/05/2013
  • @Emanuele

    For a Eurocrat, directly collaborating on austerity programs, your remark concerning "lowering other people's [work situation]" is quite unappropriate, don't you think so? Ask you Greek, Spanish and Portuguese national colleagues.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    24/05/2013
  • @Emanuele

    Read a book about it. Or take the online course "EU austerity programs for Mediterrean countries" (if there is one)

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    24/05/2013
  • @EurActiv.com

    Some background information would be needed for those of us not working in the EU Institutions to understand what the fight is about: It would be very useful if you added a fact box giving examples of how much salaries, pensions, benefits for spouses and children, expat allowances etc add up to at the moment, and how much they would be reduced.

    By :
    puzzled
    - Posted on :
    24/05/2013
  • @puzzled

    Most of the information on pay & perks can be consulted on the EU website: http://ec.europa.eu/civil_service/docs/toc100_en.pdf

    The reform the Council asks for, and the unions do not agree upon, includes a linear decrease of the 16% expatriate allowance over a period of 10 years' time.

    Also, if the Council will have its way, the 5% residence allowance would decrease gradually over time.

    Mind that both allowances -like any other allowance Eurocrats receive- are TAX FREE.

    The reform the Council asks for also intends to limit the number of extra holidays official receives to travel to and from his home country -currently this can be up to 6 days (!) for someone who has to travel 2000 km or more.

    The reform also asks the European institutions to reimburse only Economy class airline tickets (can you believe this?)

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    24/05/2013
  • @Mike,
    I am trying hard to put on your shoes.
    The personal situation you describe (prices raising because of the arrival of highly paid jobs) is not any different in London, Frankfurt, Luxembourg, Rome, Switzerland, Doha, Dubai and every other major town I know.
    So said, I also find difficult to believe that 40.000 EU Jobs can make a difference in an area of 2 mil people.
    On the contrary, since I work in Luxemburg, I must fight in order not to be pushed out by basically anybody (being the median salary here more than 4000€/month).
    Unfortunately I don't have a solution to that.

    The second argument you often cite is the taxation, and here the discussion is very very subtle.
    First of all, we pay indirect taxes as everybody else (except an initial VAT exemption when we relocate for some stuff) and of course all local taxes that are used for the local community.
    Our salaries are paid with a chapter of the EU budget, and our taxes go back in the exact same budget.
    If I give you 10 euro, and ask back 3, I gave you 7 in total and your perceived tax rate is 30%.
    If I give you 100 euro, and ask back 93, I gave you exactly the same amount but the tax rate is 93%.
    Is the first guy an outragious priviledged because his tax rate is only 30%?
    That is why the continuous claim that "EU staff" don't pay taxes is simply false. We simply don't pay taxes on the income to Member States that pay our salary.
    (And I could add that we cannot deduce ANYTHING).
    The same reason could be applied to any Member State public servant, but in any country there is a complex system of detractions/deductions so that it is easier to reason in terms of gross salaries also for them.

    By :
    Emanuele
    - Posted on :
    24/05/2013
  • @Mike, don't worry.
    If the 2004 reform cut 30% of my salary, 2014 reform will cut another 25%, you can be sure that:
    2020 reform will impose us to pay taxes ALSO to member states
    2028 reform will simply say: "we joked about paying your pensions. Your money is gone. Bye bye and thank you for all the fish"

    By :
    Emanuele
    - Posted on :
    24/05/2013
  • @Mike, just as an example from my hometown.
    The average salary for a MANAGER in Milan is 2000/2500€, while the average cost of a 100sm apartment is around 400.000€.
    In other words, not even Italian middle managers can afford to buy anything in the city and are "pushed out", unless they have a huge family fortune.
    And in Milan, there are no EU jobs...

    By :
    Emanuele
    - Posted on :
    24/05/2013
  • Emanuele

    Clearly I can only comment on the details supplied in the article and I am perfectly prepared to believe the figures that you supply. My own position is that since 2008 I have had a year on year wage cut, particularly when inflation is taken into account. I have exactly the same option as you, I can look for work elsewhere appropriate to my skills and circumstances, it is a decision each of us can take as we are not slave labour. If we decide to stay where we are and suffer a drop in our living standards it is our own conscious decision. Like you I choose to stay where I am because I still regard it as beneficial overall, when or if that is no longer the case I will move on.

    May respond to one of your points, the UK can’t leave the EU without nasty consequences so we are trying to sabotage it. Well the debate about the economic value of the EU is complex, but let us just say that increasingly the evidence is that the value of the EU to the UK is at the very best marginal. The fact that the UK government is trying to get savings from the EU is wholeheartedly supported by the UK electorate simply because the EU is seen here as an avoidable cost. I was under the impression that several countries were taking a similar stance, including The Netherlands, Finland, Austria etc. in fact most of the net contributor nations. I would say that the UK population has only ever seen the EU as an economic unit and doesn’t understand why so many people must be employed in matters which do not directly affect trade. (The ECCS is a classic example)

    On an individual basis I wish you well and can personally understand your position and frustration, a great many of us outside the EU bureaucracy are in exactly the same situation, but a strike that no one will notice, it seems to me you are simply handing back a day’s pay.

    By :
    Iwantout
    - Posted on :
    24/05/2013
  • @Emanuele

    Firstly, people who drive up rents and push out locals in Paris, London, or Rome for that matter, do so with their own money.
    Eurocrats, however, have pushed us out with OUR money -that is our tax-money.

    55,000 Eurocrats plus lobbyists plus their resp. families in a city of barely 1,000,0000 for sure IS a problem.
    In a multi-million city the size of Paris, London or Rome it would have been less dramatic.
    If you know the history of your home country well, you should know what the unification of Rome -and the influx of bureaucrats- meant to the locals. Just watch any neorealist movie. Or read Pasolini.

    Secondly: the tax system of Eurocrats working and living in Brussels should be compared with the Belgian tax system.

    For example:
    In Belgium, whereas a Eurocrat earning € 7,600 per MONTH pays an overall tax rate of 11%, any citizen -Belgian or foreign- earning € 23,900 per YEAR already pays an overall tax rate of 28%.
    In case you wouldn't know, the latter is someone who earns gross less than 1,000 €/month more than someone who is unemployed and on benefits.

    Besides, you don't pay a penny of taxes on your hefty allowances. Solely the expat and lodging allowance, for instance, already add 21% to your base salary. 100% tax-free!
    I do not even mention the other allowances, which are lump sums/month. All are tax-free.

    Sadly for you I know Italy quite well -I worked at La Sapienza, by the way. And I am rather familiar with "affittopoli" and "svendopoli".
    I understand you take privileges for politicians and senior officials for a given, but in many countries this is not the case.

    I just hope that by June 12th, this nightmare will be over.
    I am fed up with developers erasing the last green areas in Brussels to build gated communities for fat-cat Eurocrats or raise more offices for the European Commission or local politicians expropriating people because the EU wants to extend the highway to Schuman,...

    Give the bureaucrat what belongs to the bureaucrat: a wage. And no more.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    24/05/2013
  • >have seen a fall in our living standards and disposable income since 2008. We see our pension and other welfare provision becoming less generous

    Eurocrats have seen a decrease in real salary of almost 11% since 2004, and FAR less generous pensions and other welfare provisions in that time. That is actually MORE than in MOST EU countries. They also had a pay freeze since 2010. No wonder EU struggles already to have candidates from certain countries/of certain specialties.

    Mike, why do not you just leave Brussels if you are so unhappy there because of the EU? After all, most EU officials have left their homes. Or, better yet, just do not pass a competition and start working in the EU yourself?

    By :
    Tom
    - Posted on :
    24/05/2013
  • Mike also conveniently "forgets" to add special tax of 6% to his calculations. As well as almost 12% pension contribution paid by EU, as compared with 0% pension contribution paid by Belgian officials. 6%+12%+11%=29%, with NO deductions. 28%+0%=28%, with plenty of deductions (including for a cleaner - seriously - mortgage, children school, house repair, solar panels etc etc etc), is actually less.

    have a nice weekend.

    By :
    Tom
    - Posted on :
    24/05/2013
  • @Tom

    You're inverting things: I AM BORN in Brussels. So I should leave because they came in, betting on their allowances I (and other EU citizens) pay for?

    No, in case you wouldn't know the EU works with quotas. I don't think there is any room for Belgians at this moment.

    Anyway, after June 12th this question may be irrelevant. Something of the past. The good old times, you know.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    24/05/2013
  • Please, Tom, mike is leaving in a world of his own. Grazing parks for our flats when for years we can not get a school open... please.

    He is right in one way: Brussels is certainly no London or Paris. Nobody would come here if it was not for the EU.

    By :
    Carmen
    - Posted on :
    24/05/2013
  • >I AM BORN in Brussels.
    So? most Eurocrats WERE BORN somewhere else. And they decided to move for a reason - so why not you? Are you not willing to make the same sacrifices as they did?

    In fact you do not even have to - unbelievable that you have such 'Arcadia" just round the corner and do not join it. And certainly do not have to worry about the quotas - Belgians are not only wildly overrepresented in the institutions, their numbers rise by the year.

    By :
    Tom
    - Posted on :
    24/05/2013
  • have a nice weekend + bye

    By :
    Tom
    - Posted on :
    24/05/2013
  • @Tom

    Eurocrats do not make sacrifices. The 100s of thousands of young Spaniards, Portuguese, Greek etc. who emigrate and work at local conditions do. But that is something you will never understand, will you?

    Belgians now join as contractors, if I'm not mistaken.
    Certainly, no expat nor lodging fee for them. You should know this.

    As far as I can remember, only you put the "EU" and "Arcadia" in one sentence.

    @Carmen

    Soon, EU school number 5 will go up.
    Number 4 did cost us € 100 million, you see.

    Initially the EU institutions were to be in the South of France. It was close to Nice the "gentuza" had to move to, I believe.
    I suppose that would be more up your street.
    Only, the Germans didn't agree. Damn they are, those Germans, aren't they? Now they even want to cut your salary & perks.

    Perhaps the EU should take advantage of the crisis Europe is in and move to Costa del Sol, Sicily or some other sun-drenched place.
    The Spaniards are building a European Las Vegas. Why can't they build "Eurolandia"? A theme park for overpaid bureaucrats. Everyday "Sex on the Beach". Quite a change from Gare du Luxembourg, isn't it?

    Anyway, let us not worry, but let's start counting off.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    24/05/2013
  • The arrogance of the responses to Mike is most interesting.

    He was born in Brussels, and yet he should move out because the EU has decided to move in? This strikes me as similar to ethnic cleansing.

    As for the EU's struggles to find specialists because of a fall in real salaries... I regard that as potentially a good and useful thing.

    To me, it's a sign that high quality personnel might be working at productive tasks in private enterprises, adding value rather than consuming it.

    By :
    Hoover
    - Posted on :
    25/05/2013
  • @Tom

    The 6% levy does NOT apply to your complete base salary. It is not applied to the first 2,325 € of your salary.
    Therefore, you cannot simply add 6%t to the 11% in order to calculate a new overall percentage.

    The 28% overall tax rate is not the overall tax rate a Belgian official pays. A Belgian official's rate is much higher.
    The 28% figure is what someone pays who earns merely 1000 €/month more than someone who is unemployed.

    I am sorry that I am not criticizing the pension contributions of local officials as well. But if I'm not mistaken, this forum is on EU officials.

    In case you wonder about mortgages, try the local ING branch. They grant Eurocrats special, lower mortgage interest rates.

    In case you would buy a 2nd, or 3rd home, and one of these would be in Brussel, do not worry about the extra tax every other EU citizen in your situation would have to pay.

    In case you wonder about buying a new car, try for instance "Deman": special reductions -up to 20%- for Eurocrats.

    Etc. etc.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    26/05/2013
  • @puzzled

    Since you are a newcomer, as I once was, when we are dealing with Eurocrat income figures we use month amount (you’ll soon understand why). As in "the first €2,325". This figure refers to the first €2,3245 a Eurocrat earns per MONTH.

    "It's a different world, isn't it?" you might ask.
    To us, mere mortals, figures in this range that are exempted from taxes would be annual income figures. Well, not so for Eurocrats.

    Eurocrats like to pretend they are doing larger-than-life sacrifices because they pay a 6% levy on their salary. Actually, they only pay 6% on the part of their monthly salary that exceeds €2,325. Also, the 6% levy only applies to base salary, thus not on any of the allowances.

    Does this help you in getting a feel for it?

    By the way, if I am not mistaken, they currently are NOT paying this levy at all.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    26/05/2013
  • @Hoover

    Thanks for pointing out!

    Over time, I have become used to Eurocrat arrogance.
    Any remark one makes, no matter how spot on, is by default Europhobe or “not constructive or informative” (dixit Emanuele).

    But now, as you have noticed, their remarks are becoming grittier.
    It’s as if they feel the end of an era is near.
    And maybe it is? We’ll find out soon, very soon.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    26/05/2013
  • I understand Mike who cannot afford property in his native city - Brussels.

    As a European civil servant, I have to recognise that, since Brussels is such a sh*thole in terms of public transport, criminality and the general quality of dwelling houses, there are only few places where to buy or rent a decent property in Brussels or its surroundings.

    And yes, we "Eurocrats" are obliged to buy or rent property in those few places for exorbitant prices in order to be able to work in Brussels. And yes, because of that locals are driven out of those places.

    As concerns the salary, its pretty simple. You get what you pay for.

    I consider myself as somebody with a high "market value" and if my salary is cut by 10% or more, I'm gone to the private sector or back to my home country.

    So basically, bigger salary cuts mean less and less competent people working for EU.

    And if the EU institutions won't be able to fulfill their duties because of the general incompetence and the lack of personnel, it will be the problem of the same Member States and not of the former "Eurocrats".

    By :
    Hannibal
    - Posted on :
    26/05/2013
  • @Iwantout,
    we understand each other very well, and that should make us collaborate.
    The real problem of UK leaving is that every country has an implicit debt over the EU budget; if UK tries to negotiate an exit, it will have to pay for the EU budget anyway for many years to come.
    So said, it makes perfectly sense (but it is unacceptable) they want to reduce their exposition to the EU budget as much as possible BEFORE leaving.
    What puzzles me is why other countries are tricked into this selfish behaviour.
    Speaking again about a salary cut, it should be motivated by real reasons and not just hypocrisy and especially it should be proportionated among categories.
    The entire savings for UK, destroying the careers of 55.000 people, is more or less the equivalent of a YEARLY bonus of 10 top bankers.
    And I recommend the ultraliberists to think twice before saying mechanically "yeah but bankers money is private", because obviously it was not and it is not even now. They were subsidied with a trillion of public money.
    The last remarks is about "our freedom to move if conditions are not acceptable"; unfortunately this is not entirely true because high wage people tend to be a specialist.
    Being an IT expert yes, I can easily move. But think about a Lawyer giving up a private career to specialise in specific EU regulations, attracted by long term committments that then are simply reversed.
    This is not an isolated case that we can manage as an exception, it is the norm in EU institutions.

    By :
    Emanuele
    - Posted on :
    27/05/2013
  • @Mike,
    sometimes you try to "obfuscate" simple discussions with figures not relevant to the discussion.
    For tax rates, we have 3 situations:
    1) EU staff is paid with EU money, without any deduction/detraction; as I explained to you, you can apply any arbitrary tax rate (even 99%) and the result doesn't change a bit because taxes go back exactly in the same budget
    2) Member States civil servants have a similar situation (they are paid by national budgets and their taxes go back to that budget) BUT there are deductions and detractions, so in order to make things right they must have the same tax system of private sector
    3) Private workers are paid with private money, so the tax rate MAKES the difference between categories

    Again, as another reader pointed out, you conveniently forgot to say that we already pay 11% for pension contibutions (and the proposal will lift it to 15%), while for example in Germany civil servants pay... ZERO. Public pensions are not money accumulated, but a part of the retribution shifted.

    To conclude, of course you don't HAVE TO move out to search better conditions, but you CAN do that.
    Each of can can choose between staying with family or trying to make a career. Today I just realised that my parents will never really know their grandchildren and spend time with them.
    And no, mr. Cameron, this doesn't fade with the years as you publicly suggested when speaking about our expatriation allowance.

    By :
    Emanuele
    - Posted on :
    27/05/2013
  • @Mike,

    "In Belgium, whereas a Eurocrat earning € 7,600 per MONTH"

    I have done some research, just to find out that 7600€ is true for less that 20% of EU staff, and worst of all, already with the current rules is out of reach for most of post-2004 recruted.
    And we must realize that the remaining staff is not (with all due respet for the category) working as a post office clerk.
    I can assure that most of the new hired I know (with a basic level that is 50% the amount you mention) was previously a successful and experienced professional with at least 5-7 years of experience in the private sector in top firms.
    Any comparison must take this into account.
    In most part of north Europe, and everywhere outside Europe, the same skills are paied more than 100.000€ yearly.

    By :
    Emanuele
    - Posted on :
    27/05/2013
  • @Emanuele

    ‘.. you try to “obfuscate”’

    It is not my intention to obfuscate. On the contrary, that is why I use clear examples. I notice Eurocrats do not seem to like this.

    Tom insinuated that the overall tax rate would be 28% + 6% + 11%.
    I have simply proven this is not the case.
    Apparently, you lot don’t like someone to reveal the 6% fallacy.
    I did not “conveniently” forget about the 11%. I did not explain it because I simply do not know where the figure comes from, whether or not it is in place, what it is/will be applied to, whether there are any exemptions, whether it is 11 or 15%,…

    “… figures not relevant to the discussion”

    Once more you insinuate my comments are irrelevant. Let’s see.

    What you call EU money is in fact the EU budget. It is multi-annual and worth over a trillion Euros. Your salaries are part of this budget: they go under the so-called Administration section, more precisely.
    The money is actually the member states’, and hence the EU citizens’. If the money would belong to the EU, the net contributing member states couldn’t question it, the above article wouldn’t have been published and we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

    Now imagine you would have to pay an extreme tax rate, say 100%. Then nothing would be left of your salary (you would be working for free) and all the money would indeed go to the EU.
    But… your tax system is not extreme. It is very generous. Not to say extremely generous: apart from the allowances of which nothing “goes back to the EU”, nor does much of your base salary (thanks to an ultra-flat tax system).
    It is because the EU, in budgetary aspect, is not self-sufficient and ever needs more money the net contributing member states are asking questions.

    Since I do not work for the EU, I don’t know its staff breakdown.
    I used the 7600 €/month example because it is less than halfway between the lower (2,325€/month) and higher pay grade (16,094 €/month). I find it hard to believe that less than 20% of staff wouldn’t even earn half of the maximum possible.

    Please do no longer worry for us Brussels natives (in case you would ever have): even if the Council doesn’t get through all its proposals, we will no longer have to move.
    June 18th will be the beginning of the end of the nightmare, or the party –depending what side you are on.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    27/05/2013
  • @Emanuele

    "Each of can can choose between staying with family or trying to make a career."

    Eurocrats can, yes. Most other immigrants don't even have a clue of what a "career" would be. Believe me.

    I myself have worked in several countries –in as well as outside the EU. My situation varied from being a researcher at a foreign university to being an expat working for a major oil company, to working abroad on local conditions for it.

    Because of this experience, I feel sorry for:
    - the 1st wave of (Italian) immigrants who came to work in Belgium’s coal mines and who literally spitted out their lungs before their were 65.
    - the following waves who worked in our car assembly plants, 10 hours/day, and who every 2 or 3 years –depending on whether they had managed to save enough- could visit their home country between July 10th and July 31st.
    - young Portuguese who now emigrate to Macau and work under a Chinese law having 10 holidays/year.
    - Latin American, and even more for African immigrants since they had to pass Frontex (a Eurocrat creation), who work in restaurants and on construction yards in every large European city and who rent “hot beds” (you sleep in someone’s bed at night, he does so by day, and vice versa).

    Should we, however, feel sorry for a Eurocrat who enjoys near-absolute job security, an expat package and a massive number of holidays for doing an office job? Moreover, knowing that (s)he, as you claim, could easily make 100,000€/year anywhere else?

    Mind that this ex-Eurcrat, making a 100,000 €/year somewhere else, would be paying a lot more taxes than you lot. And THAT, Emanuele, is the point!
    The discussion is not about the height of the salary Eurocrats make -who am I, or anyone else for that matter, to refuse a Eurocrat to earn the same salary (s)he would earn somewhere else?- it is about the taxes they (do not) pay on it.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    27/05/2013
  • There is one thing that I see (inadvertently or purposedly) ignored in all these comments.

    Back early last February, the Council (i.e. *ALL* the 27 EU member states) agreed on a common EU budget from 2014 to 2020. For the same timespan, they agreed to make savings, and the administration heading was no exception.

    On top of the Commission reform proposal, which is expected to make savings worth about EUR 1 bn, another 1.5 bn were added, which makes a total of EUR 2.5 bn in savings. But the measures proposed by the Council want to go way past those figures. The Council itself clearly wants to act in breach of its own agreement, which is downright treachery and must be fought will all valid and available means.

    One might or might not agree argue that this is enough: I personally think this is an adequate and fair share of austerity measures for EU staff. Now, if those hawks want to make more savings, then the issue must be reopen in an extra summit of the Council; otherwise the agreements currently in force MUST be adhered to. Period.

    By :
    AngryCivilServant
    - Posted on :
    27/05/2013
  • @AngryCivilServant

    Actually, there's a 2nd thing that I see (inadvertently or purposedly) ignored:

    After the Council agreed in February on a common EU budget from 2014 to 2020, the Commission asked for an extra €11,2 billion to close the current budget, the one running until 2013.

    Perhaps this explains the first thing, and the Council's stance?

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    27/05/2013
  • Might be, but we should see the detailed breakdown of this figure and the terms of the EC's request. I don't have the detailed figures at hand, but I would be inclined to think that only a teeny-weeny part of this budget is needed to cover administration expenses: most of it (I mean, practically all of it) should/will go into the different EU policies.

    Now again, we or might not agree that the EU bugdet composition is appropriate for the time we're living in. But in the Council's stance I sense a great deal of demagogy and populism rather than a real and concrete will to reform the EU.

    Most of these decisions are not in the hands of EU staff. But yet, it's too easy to turn them into scapegoats. Which is not acceptable.

    By :
    AngryCivilServant
    - Posted on :
    27/05/2013
  • @all,
    the extra money the commission asked ARE NOT FOR ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES. It was crystal clear.
    @Mike,
    if you don't understand my point on taxation, I can't add more information. I hope others will.
    By the way, do you know the tax rate in most Arabic Countries (that are draining brains at an alarming pace?).
    Zero.
    100k gross are 100k net in Qatar, UAE and so on.
    The EU (as an organisation) competes with global players, not with national civil servants.

    Of course I understand you don't value our job and there is nothing I can say to make you change your mind.

    We will arrive to a point where other people's salaries and contracts will be decided by a TV game and sending an SMS (premium of course).

    By :
    Emanuele
    - Posted on :
    28/05/2013
  • The EU is an international organization, so it must be compared compared to equivalent bodies. All international organizations have many branches/offices around the world, so that in order to maintain uniformity their employees cannot be subject to national taxation: any taxes must be held back directly by the employer.

    If there is no tax-collecting third party (such as a national administration as is the case with normal employers/employees), then it's just a formal question. For example I, employer, can say your gross monthly salary is 5000 EUR, while your take-home one is 2500: I hold back the remaining 2500 from your payslip so you are subject to a tax rate of 50%; alternatively I can say I give you a tax-free salary of 2500 EUR. What's the difference? *Absolutely* none actually, but in the latter case there always will be some dimwit who will come along complaining about the tax-free salary.

    Therefore in case of international bodies it makes sense to compare net figures only. While there is still a minority of EU staff who enjoy very high salaries, it is an unquestionable fact that the 2004 reform brought along a wave of new staff whose payslips are much, MUCH lower, in many cases much lower than those of the private sector of *many* EU countries, and comparable to those of several EU member states' public administrations.

    Finally, there is an issue about value and quality of the work. But the average EU-bashing narrow-minded moron will never concede that a good proportion of EU-staff might be well-prepared, hard-working employees who just deserve their monthly salary. Just like anywhere else.

    By :
    AngryCivilServant
    - Posted on :
    28/05/2013
  • I’ll put in my 2 pennies worth.

    “The EU is an international organization… All international organizations have many branches/offices around the world, so that in order to maintain uniformity their employees cannot be subject to national taxation…”

    So are, by definition, all multinationals. They all have branches/offices around the world. Following this reasoning, no employee of a multinational should be subject to national taxation. This truly is quite revolutionary an idea!

    What’s even more, are all international organizations alike?
    E.g. Can one compare a a Eurocrat who deliberately came to Brussels where he will spend his entire career with a diplomat who, every 5 years, has to change country –countries outside the EU, countries (s)he never chose to work in, war-torn countries even?

    Since you are trying so hard to build the United States of Europe, why not compare yourself to the US civil servants? Are the US civil servants on an expat package because they moved to Washington DC?

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    29/05/2013
  • @Mike, you are right.
    We cannot compare EU salaries with the ones of diplomats: EU's are fully transparent and subject to critics from all the mikes in the world, while the others are completely obscure.
    May I remember that Mr. Schulz tried many times (unsuccessfully) to have a clear picture of how much money the permanent representations make?

    People that are trying every (il)legal way to slash 50.000 other people salaries don't even have the decency to reveal their own.

    By :
    Emanuele
    - Posted on :
    29/05/2013
  • @Emanuele

    Shall we, for the sake of clarity, distinguish the “mikes” who criticize, using the figures that are at their disposal, your tax system from the “mikes” (or whatever their name is) who, without providing any evidence or sensible reason, bluntly shout “those damn Eurocrats earn way too much!”?

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    29/05/2013
  • Mike (whichever "Mike" you are),
    first and foremost, the EU is a *public* organization, so it makes absolutely *no* sense to compare it to any private company or body, because their governing mechanisms and principles are totally different.

    On the other hand, EU institutions *must* be compared to other international organizations. There's plenty of them out there: NATO, UN, CERN, FAO, ESO, OPEC,... you name it. Each one has got its own purposes and goals, but they all have two important in common: they are there to promote cooperation (but the interests alike) of their members, and they are largely (or totally) funded by public money coming out of the pockets of their member states (which ultimately is always taxpayers' money).

    The EU is one of them: of course, its main goal is to promote cooperation and redistribution of resources across Europe. But to some extent, it is also used by the individual member states to promote their national interests. I don't know which EU country you come from, but rest assured that YOUR fellow countrymen working for the EU institutions are there also to protect YOUR country's national interests. In this view, geographic balance of staff is important, and for this reason you must offer a package which should be appealing enough to the citizens of any member state, and not just the less wealthy ones.

    A study published by the EC in the early 2000's showed that the package offered back then by EU institutions was very much in line with that of other international org's and some private companies (For sure I recall IBM was part of that survey, most likely others but my memory is failing me right now). The situation has since changed significantly and post-2004 EU staff now have worse employment conditions (this is not to say they are bad, but they're worse for sure) then their colleagues working for other international organizations. This is to some extent OK and makes up for the fact that other international org's will often send their representatives in dangerous or remote locations, much more than the EU does. BTW most international organizations' staff are NOT diplomats and they do not enjoy the same privileges (in particular, immunity).

    I really don't know about US civil servants, but they are citizens of a much more homogeneous country from almost all standpoints (language, culture, etc) with a long-standing tradition of democracy and common values, whereas Europe has a millennium-long tradition of conflict and division. This just can't be ignored, and is the main reason why the EU was born.

    Finally, it's about the principle of acquired rights: when EU staff were hired, they chose to be part of EU also because of the package they were offered. Now it would be unfair (and unlawful, too) to slash their salaries. I have no idea what your job or salary package is, but no matter what it is, you wouldn't be so happy about the idea of getting a cut, would you? For sure not. Period.

    Bottom line: as I already wrote in a previous comment of mine, the savings package that was agreed upon last February is more than adequate to the times of austerity we're going through. Anything on top of that is just plain, downright abuse and, as such, is to be opposed with all available means.

    By :
    AngryCivilServant
    - Posted on :
    29/05/2013
  • @Emanuele

    I am always rather bemused when a public servant, enjoying a job-for-life, tells me (s)he is competing with other people.

    Don’t worry: your wage will never be decided upon on television. No, it takes at least the Council, Parliament and the Commission to change it.
    On the other hand, our salaries basically follow investment flows. Thanks to the liberalization of the financial markets, investors can shift their money around the world in nanoseconds. Changes in our wages and conditions just lag some time.

    First you tell us you could make a fortune in North-Europe.
    Then you tell us you would be better off working in the Arab world.

    Well, why don’t you try your chance?

    I’ll tell you why. Because you would be working 6 days/week and 48 weeks/year. Quite a change from your massive holiday scheme and Flexitime, isn’t it?

    And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why Eurocrats, always boasting they can earn fortunes anywhere, are so desperate: the Council’s proposal will bring a dramatic change to their way of living. The End of the Frequent Flyer, if you know what I mean.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    30/05/2013
  • @AngryCivilServant

    Indeed, there is absolutely no salary-related information on other organisations.
    I only found an article on the former head of the IFAD/FAO who intended to save $2,5 million on pensions but, at the same time, was renting a superb mansion for 597,000 $/year.
    Ironically, being the sole organisation to publish its pay & perks online, the EU ends up being the only one to take criticism! Indeed, that isn’t quite fair.

    You’re right on the acquired rights: at the time you decided to join the EU on certain salary expectations.
    I guess introducing a post- Šefčovič statute, next to the pre and post-Kinnock statutes, won’t exactly enhance the working atmosphere at the European institutions.
    end
    With regards to the US civil service, however, your reasoning just is not convincing. Using different languages & cultures to justify a separate income tax system seems to me one bridge too far.
    Nor is your argument on cooperating entities: many an extremely talented post PhD works at a foreign university on local conditions.

    Like many other citizens, I have once lost a job because my employer delocalised. Thanks to the Schengen treaty, my employer –without a twinkle in his eye– could give me the choice: Take it or leave. (Ironically, the only time I have been on an expat package in the EU was in the UK.)
    After half a year I quit, came back to Belgium and luckily found another job. I had to take a 30% cut in salary. My case is rather common since the outbreak of the financial crisis.

    It makes perfect sense to decrease expatriate and residence allowances over time. I cannot see any act of barbarism in it. Even large multinational companies move their expatriates to local payroll once they have been working a decade in the same country (unless the working conditions are not safe).
    I don’t believe it is the taxpayer’s duty to fuel the Eurocrat jet-set lifestyle.

    You have created a common and liberalised market, including a ditto labour market, yet you keep clinging on to your jobs-for-life and tax-free allowances.
    Isn’t it time for Eurocrats to start practicing what they preach?

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    30/05/2013
  • @Mike, you like to have the last word on anything?
    So be it: you have it.
    My purpose was not to convince you, but to give extended information to any other occasional reader; after that, I leave you to your criticism and I hope you will have a better life when things improve.

    By :
    Emanuele
    - Posted on :
    31/05/2013
  • Mike,
    it is sufficient to google around and you will get many interesting results about employment conditions of other EU and non-EU international organizations:

    UN https://careers.un.org/lbw/home.aspx?viewtype=SAL
    CERN http://jobs.web.cern.ch/content/appointment-conditions-professionals
    ESO http://www.eso.org/public/employment/intstaff.html

    I could swamp you with more links but the situation is pretty much the same. Although with some differences, ALL international organizations do offer a base (tax-free) salary + a wide range of benefits such as expat and household allowances and schooling contributions. In the case of CERN and ESO, for example, the expat allowance amounts to 12% of the basic salary, and lasts for the entire duration of the contract, regardless of its type (both fixed-term and permanent). The EU institutions are probably among the most transparent ones, but as I already wrote their salary packages are arranged according to common principles.

    As far as European (and I mean European as belonging to the European continent, not just the European Union or the eurozone) international org's are concerned, the point is straightforward. If it is decided that in times of crisis appropriate economies are to be made throughout ALL such organizations, then it's fine, we all have to make some sacrifices; but if only about the EU institutions are affected, then it's just plain abuse and demagogy. It's as simple as that. Period.

    Once again, let me stress the fact that ALL of the above mentioned organizations offer completely tax-free pay and perks. The EU is just no exception to this general (and also legal, I'd say) principle governing such international bodies. And as such, it makes NO sense to be aiming just at EU institutions. It's either ALL of them, or NONE of them.

    BTW because of my personal situation I am not even entitled to the expat allowance, so I wouldn't even be affected by any measure regarding its reduction. But yet it does matter because it is all about the underlying principles and equity. And also because it would set a dangerous precedent.

    Then, the Schengen agreement does not have absolutely *anyhing* to do with delocalization; in fact it's about loosening border control, but by no means will it prevent delocalization. And the free circulation and market brought along by the EU won't prevent localization either. Bear in mind that delocalization will always be causing businesses to search for higher profit, regardless of continent, race, religion, distance, ecc.

    Indeed you have a really distorted perception of what a common market is all about. It has opened up a whole lot of new opportunities for EU citizens, and by the introduction of a single currency it has also created new business opportunities for enterprises and private citizens alike.

    Please, let's stick to facts instead of blindly throwing mud at the EU just out of plain frustration and anger.

    By :
    AngryCivilServant
    - Posted on :
    31/05/2013
  • I don’t throw mud. I try to argue based on the information I have at my disposal. You are insiders: you live and breathe international organisations.

    It IS thanks to “Schengen” and following EU acts that employers can delocalise whilst offering their staff local conditions! The Schengen treaty includes free movement of services (as in labour).

    I didn’t know so many officials enjoy such generous perks –an élite subsidised by the masses. The Indians have castes. Apparently so do Europeans.

    My perception of a common market (too negative) is no more distorted than yours (too positive). Ask any Portuguese, Spaniard, Italian or Greek about the advantages of a strong common currency. Ask international lorry drivers from any country with a high cost of living about the advantages of a common market when they have to compete with colleagues from countries whose lower cost of living is lower.

    Eurocrats praise and impose globalisation, privatisation and free market but at the same time shield themselves from all of these.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    01/06/2013
  • Mike,
    no, Mike, you are *absolutely* wrong here.

    Delocalization takes place regardless of borders and free circulation agreements. Within Europe there has been a bit (I mean, a TEENY-WEENY bit) from the "western block" to the eastern countries, but it had started long before the bulk of the free circulation agreements came into force. For example, some car production factories had been moved from Italy, Spain, Germany, etc. to Poland, Czech Republic and Romania long before they joined the EU in 2004.

    The bulk of delocalization, however, started taking place decades ago to faraway countries with impressingly lower labor costs and less regulated marketssuch as China, India, the Philippines, and so on. We do not have any agreement whatsoever with these countries: yet, most objects we use on a daily basis carry a "made in China" label, not a "made in some damn European country" one, not even a "made in Romania" or "made in Greece" or "made in Poland" one: just "made in China"! Big companies do not give a flying **** about race, religion, distance, politics. They just care for one thing: pure profit.

    As far as the euro goes, having a strong common currency would be a big advantage, were it not for two things:

    1) Some principles underlying the introduction of the euro are ill-posed (e.g. having a common currency but not sharing the debt).

    2) Some countries, managed their own resources in the worst possible way. Their high public debts date back to decades years earlier, and have nothing to do with the introduction of the Euro. In one case (Greece), the accounts were even falsified.

    Actually, the euro kept interest rates low, allowing the worst-managed countries to enjoy a period of relative prosperity. The problems of these countries are not to blame on Europe or Germany, but on the irresponsibility of their governments. Sadly enough, their citizens are paying for their rulers' mistakes: they should have been kept out of the euro since the very beginning, unless they proved to really have applied major reforms (which hasn't happened yet to date).

    I may concede that when the crisis broke out, the most well-off countries (e.g. Germany) imposed a package of too severe measures of austerity to protect their interests and investments. But the difficult times some European countries are going through at present stem mostly from their own problems, and not from Europe. I happen to be a national of one of these Mediterranean countries and I know very well what I'm talking about.

    By :
    AngryCivilServant
    - Posted on :
    01/06/2013
  • @ AngryCivilServant

    > Once again, let me stress the fact that ALL of the above mentioned organizations offer completely tax-free pay and perks. The EU is just no exception to this general (and also legal, I'd say) principle governing such international bodies.

    In fact, EU is THE EXCEPTION by charging income tax.

    I thank you for providing these links, and I added them to 'Favourites' along with some other vacancy search links :).
    The result of that reform, as I had written in another topic, is to bring our salaries in time not only below average, but also below minimum wages. (Keep in mind the inflation tax proposal is limited neither in time nor in scope). Thus we will be driven away and replaced by seconded temps from national gvts. Well, as far as I am concerned the Council will quickly succeed.

    By :
    Carmen
    - Posted on :
    02/06/2013
  • Mmm… I don’t think I am absolutely wrong –nor are you absolutely right. As ever, reality isn’t black or white but rather greyish.

    Lorry drivers, handymen etc. from Western EU member states do not compete with “made in China”. They compete with their peers from Eastern EU member states, and the free circulation of services in the EU makes this unfair competition perfectly legal.

    The EU signs bilateral trade agreements. Bangladesh, for example, has become the world’s leading textile manufacturer mainly because of one single trade agreement with the EU. Portuguese, Spanish and Italian textile manufacturers overnight found out what a trade agreement is (and does).

    Imagine Eurocrats would be paying Belgian income taxes (since they are working in Belgium) and that the EU would be a company listed on the stock exchange. What would happen?
    Most of the 55,000 EU jobs would be now either in Romania or overseas in India, the Philippines etc.
    In the first case, hardly anyone of the current staff would go to Romania on an expat package. In the latter, a handful of very senior officers would be on an expat package for about a decade.
    Welcome to the real world.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    02/06/2013
  • Have a look at the latest news on the Bank of Spain.

    A number of staff will have to work below minimum wage.
    The Bank also proposes to increase the retirement age to 67.
    Officials working with the Bank of Spain all have passed the so-called “oposiciónes”, entry-level exams that are rather tough.
    In particular cases, officials working in a region like Catalonia, Valencia or the Basque country need to master the local language.
    Does this sound familiar?

    The EU urges Spain to reform its labour law. The new law's evaluation should be done by July; its implementation by September.

    What’s sauce for the goose, is sauce for the gander…

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    02/06/2013
  • Mike,
    1) EU institutions are public bodies. Following your reasoning, each and every public body in the EU should be turned into a private company; this is just nonsense. Public administration cannot be outsourced, because it has to stay under the direct control of the country it belongs without being exposed to the influence (either actual or potential) of any external force/power.

    2) The introduction of a single common market might indeed have introduced some competition in some sectors, but to say that businesses were delocalized because of that is simply wrong. In exchange for that, the single common market with a single currency offered a host of new opportunities for those companies and private citizens who were willing to take up the challenge. Actually for some countries like Italy and Germany, foreign trade is a very profitable source of income (for Italy, foreign trade is what prevented the economy from crumbling, since its domestic market is going through a phase of worrisome stagnation)

    3) Some European countries do not even have the minimum wage. As far as EU institutions are concerned, in the past it used to be relatively easy to get hired, but now you have to pass very difficult competitions, with a 1-in-100 chance of ending up in a reserve list, which BTW does not give any guarantee of finding a post. Officials have to show competence in two foreign languages other than their own mother tongue, and this is also a prerequisite for getting the first promotion. With salaries that for post-Kinnock-reform staff are 40% lower than those of their senior colleagues and which, in some cases, are even below the minimum wage (this is the case of some AST employees working in Luxembourg). And last February's agreement brought along a package of significant savings.

    Please answer this question: why go way beyond what has already been decided and above all, why just for *EU institutions* and not for all European international organizations? The latter case, although still questionable, would be much more justifiable in the view of a continent-wide "wave" of austerity. Otherwise it's just plain and blind demagogy.

    By :
    AngryCivilServant
    - Posted on :
    03/06/2013
  • @AngryCivilServant

    Hold your horses please!

    “each and every public body should be turned into a private company”
    No, I’m not claiming they should. I’m just illustrating what would happen if the EU were a company.

    “[public administration] has to stay under the direct control of the country it belongs”
    True. In this case, it should stay under the direct control of the EU and, therefore, could be in, or move to, any EU country. Romania, for example.

    “Some European countries do not even have the minimum wage.”
    Spain does. And, as a matter of fact, the “oposiciónes” resemble the EU exams quite a lot (only that in abovementioned regions one needs to know 2, instead of 3, languages).

    “why go way beyond what has already been decided”
    Don’t get me wrong: I am not targeting the EU in particular. Indeed, there seems to be plenty of fat to be cut in diplomatic forces etc. as well.
    Nor am I asking for more than what has already been decided upon. E.g. I don’t see why all of a sudden the calculation method should be revised. Nor do I see why contractors should replace certain permanent employees. And above all: I don’t see why, in a geographically expanding EU, there should be a 5% cut in staff.

    But I do maintain that, in a city the size of Brussels and a country with (extremely) high income taxes, 55,000 Eurocrats plus family and God knows how many lobbyists have caused a serious imbalance.

    I also (perhaps too) bluntly state the following:
    Someone who deliberately goes to a place where he keeps claiming to be an expat –hence asking the taxpayer to fund his jet set lifestyle– all the 35+ years he’ll be working and living in that one single place, is a fraud.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    03/06/2013
  • The whole EU project is working as planned. Lowered salaries, export of jobs, cuts to pensions, etc,,,, is just what the corporatists have in mind all along.

    By :
    John
    - Posted on :
    04/06/2013
  • The whole EU project is working as planned. Lowered salaries, export of jobs, cuts to pensions, etc,,,, is just what the corporatists have in mind all along.

    By :
    John
    - Posted on :
    04/06/2013
  • dear Mike, it is not me who chose Brussels as an EU capital. If I had a chance doing the same work somewhere else, for example in Prague or London, I would not hesitate long. No money will compensate the dog's crap one can see everywhere in this city.

    By :
    ja
    - Posted on :
    05/06/2013
  • PUBLIC SERVANTS' PRIVATE BUSINESSES

    In 2004, the European Commission indicated to the Brussels Region it wanted offices in the “Delta” area.
    Property developer Immobel bought land in the area from the Brussels University. Immobel is active in “developing EU member states”; the university offers a Master to aspiring Eurocrats and enjoys generous EU research funds.
    In 2010, in the nick of time, the Region had to kill the project because 200,000 m2 of office would generate too much traffic.

    Immobel did not mind: it also owns the new spot the Region assigned to the Commission. But what could they do with “Delta”? The site is a park that shelters protected species –both fauna and flora.
    The Region simply changed the urban plan. It would be called “PRAS démographique”: demographic so that private apartments could be built on “Delta”.

    In 2012, Immobel proposed “Universalis Park”: 140 top-notch apartments and a kindergarten right next to the European school. A gated community. A cosy Eurocrat ghetto, so to speak.

    Soon, the trees will be cut, the animals will perish, and the Eurocrats will move in.

    A public space, a park actually, which the Belgian public once donated and has been keeping in good condition ever since, will become private.
    Like the European school, the apartments and kindergarten will be gated and secured by a private company. Locals, students, biologists, elderly, wanderers, joggers etc. who use the park will no longer have access to it.

    Sadly, the story of “Delta” is but one of many similar stories in our city.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    06/06/2013
  • @ all Carmens, Jas etc.

    It is with great sadness that I read your messages. Living in Brussels on an tax-money fuelled expat package must be unbearable. All EU citizens no doubt feel for your terrible hardship.

    Because you once passed an entry exam you are of a different, superior breed and only deserve the very best.

    But, if it helps, Brussels citizens also deeply regret that the EU didn’t settle in a highbrow city of the like of Vienna, a metropolis like London or any sun-drenched spot along the Riviera or the shores of the Iberian Peninsula.

    May COREPER look after you.

    All the best.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    06/06/2013
  • Dear Mike,
    it is now clear that you are negatively biased against the EU institutions only (or mainly) because, in your view, their presence ruined the city and the region of Brussels. Frankly, I find your arguments very partial and appallingly narrow-minded: let me explain why.

    Every urban expansion phase has its pros and cons. On the one hand, it will bring more people together and it will create more business opportunities and higher wages, thereby increasing the total wealth. On the other hand, however, it will also have some side effects such as increase in price of land and housing, more traffic, etc. In practice, the expansion phase undergone by Brussels is akin to the one experienced by many other European cities over the second half of the 20th century. Seems to me like you are judging the facts from your very personal (and biased) standpoint, without looking at the big picture. I may concede that the presence of EU and other (e.g. NATO) institutions might have created some market problems, but on the whole it has greatly increased the wealth and the importance of an otherwise marginal city.

    When the EU was born, Brussels was chosen to host the bulk of EU institutions for several reasons, mainly thanks to its geographical position both from a physical and symbolic/political standpoint. To reply to an earlier statement of yours, it wasn’t set up in Romania or Bulgaria because those countries were not among the EU founding members. And as we all know today, history would take a very different (and much worse) course of events in the countries of Eastern Europe.

    Because of the 2004 reform, almost half of the current EU *today* just can’t even think of affording any of the upcoming high-end apartments; in some years’ time this will apply to all EU staff, even without the Coreper zeroing in on our staff regulations. But this will also decrease the total wealth of Brussels and its region: probably some indicators such as the price of housing will drop accordingly, but on the whole, it will most likely have a negative impact.

    This will probably make *you* happy, but I bet this will not be the case for many other fellow citizens of yours. At all.

    By :
    AngryCivilServant
    - Posted on :
    06/06/2013
  • Talking about a partial view and narrow-mindedness:

    I illustrate the impact the caprice of 140 freewheeling Eurocrats has on an entire neighbourhood, thousands of students and researchers, a language school that teaches foreign children French in the park and garden, biologists, amateur sportsmen and, last but not least, nature itself.
    To set the record straight: I myself do not live close to Delta.

    You, however, solely point out YOUR benefits and YOUR lifestyle. You would favour anything, I repeat: anything, to paying your share and not asking for more than what belongs to you. Are you by any chance a devoted disciple of Machiavelli’s? In that, one can use any means necessary to preserve your featherbedded lifestyle?

    To people who are not on an expat package, Brussels now is even less than marginal.
    The city would benefit greatly from individuals who have made up their mind and come to Brussels to work with the EU on the European Project, rather than the current tax money-devouring jetsetters who, even after 35+ years Brussels, still claim an expat package and who joined the EU mainly because of this package.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    07/06/2013
  • Typo:

    The city and even more the EU would benefit greatly from inidivduals who have made up their mind and come to Brussels to work with the EU on the European Project, rather than the current tax money-devouring jetsetters who, even after 35+ years Brussels, still claim an expat package and who joined the EU mainly because of this package.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    07/06/2013
  • Mike,
    which part of "every reform impact ONLY post-2004 staff" you don't understand?
    Why you support an harsh punishment of motivated and competent 30-40 yo people, just because the previous generation enjoyed high salaries that ARE NOT IN PLACE ANYMORE or enjoys a pension that were fully paid by their contributions during the active work? (yes, the EU scheme -differently than any member state scheme- has always been in actuarial equilibrium, meaning that actual pensions are fully covered by past payments).
    Why you support that my generation must pay pension contribution related to an hypotetical final salary that will never materialize?

    You are just driven by a distorted sense of "justice" that is obviously what is more convenient for you.
    Remember that most of your interventions are borderline with plain slandery, especially because here and in many other comments/previous posts you used false figures and NEVER apologised when you were corrected.

    By :
    Emanuele
    - Posted on :
    07/06/2013
  • @Emanuele

    Give me one example of false figures I supposedly used.
    Bear in mind that you work for the EU, and that you have the figures at your disposal. I don't work.
    I have apologised when I had to. And I did.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    07/06/2013
  • Typo:

    I don't work with the EU and rely on secondary sources.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    07/06/2013
  • And besides, your colleagues never apologise when they are caught lying about, or playing down, their pay & perks. Most of the time they leave the discussion.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    07/06/2013
  • Mike,
    I sympathize with you about the "140 freewheeling Eurocrats" problem. I repeat, in some years' time it will no longer be possible for such things to happen.

    Re your comment "You, however, solely point out YOUR benefits and YOUR lifestyle. You would favour anything, I repeat: anything, to paying your share and not asking for more than what belongs to you[...]": this is simply not true. As far as I'm concerned I don't belong to the group of "tax money-devouring jetsetters", and this is true of about half of the whole EU staff. But you EU-bashing dimwits find it too difficult to make any distinction.

    Our fair share of austerity? The Commission's proposal plus with last February's agreement are more than enough. Period. A salary ranging from 2.5K to 4K EUR/month, which is of course decent but nothing exceptional (even compared to what's available in Belgium itself), is nowhere near sufficient to support what you call a "featherbedded lifestyle". Please stick this into your mind.

    As far as the higher-paid colleagues are concerned, even if their take-home salary is twice or even three times as high as mine, they just can't be forced to suddenly give up on 1/5th or their monthly income: it would be downright abuse as it is a fundamental principle of law that changes like these must be introduced gradually. And the austerity path laid down by the 2004 reform is precisely going down this route and is more than adequate for making the EU administration more cost-effective.

    By :
    AngryCivilServant
    - Posted on :
    07/06/2013
  • @Mike,
    1) here and in other threads you cited a "5% residence allowance" that I am not able to find in my payslip.
    Maybe you refer to a "4% foreign residence allowance" that is given to some people that don't receive the expatriation allowance. So it is 16% OR 4%, you cannot sum them up. It is written in the Staff Regulations, and it is a public information.
    2) in other thread (maybe another Mike? I don't think so but it is possible), you also sum up apples and pears.
    You said we have:
    a) 24 days of basic leave (correct)
    b) 18 days of public holidays (wrong: it is actually 17 and will be 14 from 2014)
    c) all other days where the institutions are closed (wrong: you are repeating point b again)
    d) additional days for age (correct, in average 3)
    e) additional days for travelling (correct, but 6 is for extreme cases, the average is 3 in my knowledge)
    f) 24 days because of flexitime (completely wrong, because flexitime means that you have to do overtime first, and recuperate later. So they are not additional days at all but a different distribution of the workload.
    So, to sum up, I personally have today 46 days that will be reduced to 42 (including public holidays) in the Commission proposal. I concede that it is *slightly* better than the EU average (6 days more than for an average briton), but it is certaintly not an absurd priviledge.
    3) you insist on this "tax-free" mantra, when many people explained you that when the employer and the tax collector are the same entity, that is totally irrelevant.

    At the very end, not a single Council position is justified by calculations, scenarions, studies etc. It is just "we must cut because we want to and have the power to, and voters are with me".

    You should make a balanced package, and this is precisely what the Commission has done in its original proposal.
    The Council simply created a package taking all the worst possible condition in Europe.
    It is like saying:
    "mr Mike, you must pay the Belgian tax rate (one of the highest), receive the British health coverage and work on Saturdays because they do so in Bangladesh". Funny uh?

    By :
    Emanuele
    - Posted on :
    10/06/2013
  • One can enjoy both the expat and the family allowance. Cfr. Annex 7, section 1, article 1. If I'm right, only officials whose partner earns more than 3,105 €/month and who don't have any children do not receive the family allowance.

    Last year, at least in Brussels, the EU had 18 office closing days.

    Officials having 20 years of service shall receive 5 extra days off each 5th extra service year. Thus, an official whose is working 30 years with the EU has 10 extra holidays.

    In Belgium, and many other countries, as of a certain pay grade, office workers in the private sector (called "cadre") do not receive compensation for working overtime. Those office workers, of a lower pay grade, who do pay a 65% taks rate on the earnings.
    So for people working in the private sector, having 30 days and no compensation for overtime, 46 days already is mind-boggling.

    No, the "tax mantra" as you call it makes that little of the tax money that flows into the EU stays with the EU. It doesn't go to its pension scheme, for example. Thanks to the ultra-flat tax system the money goes straight to the officials.

    I agree with you in that blind cost cutting doesn't do any good to anybody -neither the officials or the taxpayer.

    By :
    mike
    - Posted on :
    10/06/2013
The general staff meeting (Photo: Georgi Gotev)
Background: 

As austerity tightens its grip on the continent while the EU budget for 2014-2020 is being agreed, the salaries and benefits of the EU institutions’ staff have become a prized target, with British Prime Minister David Cameron pushing for a “real terms” cut to their income.

The European Commission estimates that the proposed cuts under a revised staff regulation would result in a 60% reduction in EU staff purchasing power over the next 15 years.

The proposals would also require EU staff to work longer hours for no more pay and increase the retirement age to 67 from 65. Staff contribution to pensions will also rise from 33 to 45%.

The average retirement age for national public servants is under 63.

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