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Published 11 September 2012

Scottish people could lose European Union citizenship if the region wins independence from the United Kingdom, European Commission President José Manuel Barroso has suggested. 

Nationalists believe an independent Scotland would have no problem remaining in the European Union.

Barroso has said any country winning independence from a current EU member state would have to renegotiate its membership.

“In the hypothetical event of a secession of a part of an EU member state, the solution would have to be found and negotiated within the international legal order,” he said in recent remarks.

Unionist politicians jumped on the statement, which they said meant an independent Scotland risked losing EU membership.

David Martin, a Labour MEP and the party's spokesman on constitutional affairs, said membership was not automatic.

"An independent Scotland's membership of the EU is far from clear, and there is no precedent to suggest membership would be automatic," Martin said.

“President Barroso’s recent comment reflects what the European Commission has been saying for a long time," he said, adding that the situation is "certainly not as clear-cut as the SNP would like to believe."

Martin added the European Commission, the European Parliament and all member states would have to agree to Scotland becoming a new member.

A Scottish flag in Brussels

But the Scottish Government have said there is nothing in Barroso’s response that suggests Scotland will not retain its place in the EU.

SNP MEP Alyn Smith said unionist parties were scare-mongering.

“The president has made it clear he is not going to get involved in these discussions because this is a matter for the people of Scotland. It is utterly inconceivable this could be any other way," Smith said. “Membership is a formality and the people of Scotland will decide.”

European Commission spokesman Olivier Bailly said today (11 September) that an independent Scotland would be left outside the union, at least temporarily.

“Any secession process for member states will have to be organised according to international law so that this new organisation gets recognition from the international community,” Bailly said.

“Then if they want to apply for EU membership this will have to be done by treaty regarding provision for accession.”

But he added, “All that is speculative and we have not received any request so far.”

Positions: 

“Our EU membership is absolutely crucial to Scottish jobs and the economy, and so far the SNP's unfounded claims on Scottish membership do not tally with the advice we have received from the European Commission,” said David Martin, a Labour MEP and the party's spokesman on constitutional affairs.

Jennifer McKiernan, journalist at the Aberdeen Evening Express and a Robert Bosch Stiftung-EurActiv Journalism Fellow

COMMENTS

  • Interesting topic. This is a matter of succession of rights of the Scottish population. In case of independence, the Scots would continue to be -as they are now- EU citizens, with their full rights guaranteed, although under a different sovereignty. Here's an interesting 82-page report on "The internal enlargement of the EU": http://www.irla.cat/documents/the-internal-enlargement-of-the-EU.pdf

    By :
    Citizen
    - Posted on :
    11/09/2012
  • So if Scotland became independent would England , Wales and NI renegotiate as they no longer could be defined as the UK?
    Bailly should be reprimanded for giving opinion like this when it is a political decision and not within the powers of the Commission?

    By :
    Charles Watt
    - Posted on :
    12/09/2012
  • I can imagine that certain member states with regions aiming for independence will do all they can to block a newly independent Scotland from joining the EU...

    By :
    eurotyke
    - Posted on :
    12/09/2012
  • Firstly, Bailly has now backtracked somewhat:

    "Mr Bailly has now said that his answer to a specific scenario was not an indication of commission thinking on a possible independent Scotland."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-19567650

    Secondly, what all this leads to is if I pursue my fundamental right to vote (enshrined in EU law) 'yes' in an independence referendum, and the result is a majority in favour, then I and all the other EU citizens in Scotland will be stripped of their citizenship, without consultation and without any recourse - if all this nonsense is to be believed. An EU that would treat its own citizens like that would be in breach of so many fundamental rights and could be accused of interfering with a nations right to self determination as enshrined by the UN charter.

    By :
    Iain
    - Posted on :
    12/09/2012
  • Has the Scottish Government actually signed any treaties of any kind with any other countries? If not, it would have to do so, and negotiate terms with those countries, including the Member States of the EU. It's not a given....

    By :
    Malcolm
    - Posted on :
    12/09/2012
  • Malcolm in my posting I intended to make four points.
    Why did a civil servant give an opinion in public when it is a political decision and not one that the Commission should comment on.
    There is no precedent of any country leaving the EU and therefore no process and no outcome can be predicted
    Membership and negotiation of terms I see as two separate issues
    Finally if it was the UK that negotiated terms of membership then the remaining countries in the UK should also have to apply and renegotiate as they can no longer be defined as the UK.
    I also find Iains argument compelling i.e; that by voting for independence the EU would in effect be stripped of their European citizenship if they insist that Scotland first leaves the EU.
    I have yet to hear a clear logical argument setting out what the position is legally. Barroso's statement basically avoids answering the issue of membership.

    By :
    Charles Watt
    - Posted on :
    12/09/2012
  • Are the scots also planning to stay in/out, permanently renegociating opt-ins/opt-outs, fussing around every time the cameras enter an EU summit and changing their mind as soon as they leave? Because we already got one funny deluded country like that, we wouldn't need two.

    By :
    matthias
    - Posted on :
    15/09/2012
  • Thanks Citizen for posting the link to a very interesting an informative document. It gave me hope after reading it the Scotland would indeed enjoy succession in membership.

    By :
    Yvonne Veitch
    - Posted on :
    25/10/2012
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    Agefeamma
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Background: 

Scotland has been a nation within the United Kingdom (UK) since the UK was founded in 1707. The current Scottish Parliament was founded 10 years ago as part of the process of devolution within the UK, which created regional assemblies in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, to give the regions greater autonomy. The Scottish Parliament has control over some parts of policy, such as education and health, and can create its own laws on these issues. 

The Scottish National Party (SNP), which leads the devolved government, is campaigning for Scottish independence. The SNP claims that Scotland needs a stronger voice in Europe and beyond to properly represent its social, political and economic interests. 

Scottish ministers complain that issues important to them are often sidelined by the UK government based in London, and representation for Scotland is lost or diluted when the interests of the UK are represented internationally. 

The Scottish government has put forward several issues on which it believes the interests of their nation would be better served as an independent state within the EU, including diplomatic relations, energy policy, fisheries and environmental policy. 

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