Tajani infuriates Greece with ‘Macedonia’ comment

26-01-2017

Syriza MEP Kostas Chrysogonos: "Tajani proved to be not only ignorant of history, but also frivolous”. [EPP/ Flickr]

Greek politicians reacted strongly to a video published yesterday (25 January) showing the newly elected President of the European Parliament, Antonio Tajani, calling the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia “Macedonia.” EURACTIV Greece reports.

Although Macedonia is recognised as the country’s constitutional name by most member states, the name dispute with Greece has blocked the country’s membership in both the EU and NATO [See background].

Croatian MEP invites angry Greeks to join ‘Friends of Macedonia’

The creation of an informal “Friends of Macedonia” group in the European Parliament has triggered strong reactions among Greek MEPs, who said that the EU’s door was closed for Skopje.

During a visit to Skopje in February 2016, Tajani, then a Commissioner, said, “Macedonia is a beautiful country. Everyone in Italy knows Macedonia. Why? Because Alexander the Great and Philip of Macedon are very popular ancestors of yours.”

“Without Alexander [the Great] we would have no Europe because he was the first king who stopped the invasion by Iran and those countries. That’s why they call him Alexander the Great. He strengthened the European borders,” Tajani added.

Greek TV channel Ant1 published the video yesterday, triggering a strong response from parties across Greece’s political spectrum, including the right-wing New Democracy, which is a member of Tajani’s European People’s Party.

Tajani’s reaction

In an effort to calm things down, the president of the European Parliament issued a press release today (26 January) emphasising that the EU legislature recognises as the only country name the internationally recognised “Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia”.

“Regarding the Greek press reports about the prior year’s visit of Mr. Tajani in Skopje, the newly elected European Parliament President confirms the established position of the European Parliament that the body recognises as the only country name the internationally recognised ‘Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia’ (FYROM),” the statement said.

“Ignorant of history”

Syriza MEP Kostas Chrysogonos said that Tajani proved to be “not only ignorant of history, but also frivolous”.

New Democracy MEP Eliza Vozemberg noted that the Italian politician had “no idea of geography” while Pan-Hellenic Socialist Movement (PASOK) MEP Nikos Androulakis wondered, “Just imagine if Tajani’s mother was not a professor of ancient Greek. What would he say?”

EU foreign affairs chief also made the blunder of calling Macedonia “Macedonia”, but hasn’t repeated the mistake since.

Iconoclast Mogherini calls Macedonia ‘Macedonia’

EU foreign affairs chief Federica Mogherini surprised many in the press room today, when she called ‘Macedonia’ the country that calls itself Macedonia.

Background

Comments

43 responses to “Tajani infuriates Greece with ‘Macedonia’ comment”

Thinker says:

26/01/2017 at 19:10

EU mantra : EU member states and EU candidate states must resolve bilateraly it own desputes. Greece is excelent example how it works in its despute with Macedonia. Greece blocked Macedoninan negotiations in EU and NATO . This is really “nice” EU behavour.

- SquareRoot says:
  
  28/01/2017 at 02:50
  
  Also “nice” behavior are the Greek hating ethnic engineers that unethically evade as the former Yugoslavians turn into “ancient Macedonians” and promote irredentism Don’t you think people that preach ethics should first have them rather than engage in subtle form of ethnic cleansing?
  
Jimmy Pope says:

26/01/2017 at 20:35

Sounds like a bunch of cry-babies…

- Sexy Stavroula says:
  
  27/01/2017 at 13:52
  
  don’t they. They need a group hug then a kick in the head
  
  - SquareRoot says:
    
    28/01/2017 at 02:38
    
    OH look. The Slav progandists pretending to be “Greek” showing “human rights” as their motivation yet again.
    
- SquareRoot says:
  
  28/01/2017 at 02:49
  
  Deep. Way to address the issues. You are clearly a rocket scientist.
  
Hank says:

27/01/2017 at 00:50

Tajani doesn’t sound like an intelligent person and he is now the new President of the European Parliament. lol. Macedon didn’t stop Europe being invaded by Iran, there was no Iran in ancient times only Persia. It was not Macedon that stop the invasion, it was the Spartans and the Athenians, Ancient Macedon invaded the Persian Empire afterwards.. Tajani, you must understand that Alexander the Great and his Ancient Macedon Kingdom was a Greek kingdom, speaking Greek, worshiping Greek Gods and have always claimed to be Greeks.. FYROM are slavs which arrived into Europe 1000 years after the death of Alexander the Great, the Romans and Greeks called this period the Slavic Invasion. Also FYROM speak Bulgarian and are closely related to the Bulgarians. There is only one true Macedonia and it is in Greece!

- Sexy Stavroula says:
  
  27/01/2017 at 13:51
  
  @Hank – The Spartans are as much as a myth as the modern Hellenic “mighty” Army. You lost all wars. TRNC being the most recent.
  PS. Macedonia was a Kingdom NOT a Greek city state.
  
  - SquareRoot says:
    
    28/01/2017 at 02:39
    
    LMAO. Ancient.Macedonia is in Greece not ancient Paeonia dear-ski. Not the fault of Greeks you fascists confused ancient placenames with modern.
    
    - Ted Kosta says:
      
      28/01/2017 at 03:55
      
      51% of Macedonia is occupied by Greece today, illegally partitioned in 1913 with the treaty of Bucharest…Macedonia in ancient time was in Macedonia and within its ancient border where it has always been Ancient Greece didn’t exist because in that ancient time Greece as a name, a nation, a people did not exist, its a modern construct to a people of mixed ethnicity’s that spoke predominately Bulgarian as is plan as the history books and modern historians can prove!
      
      - SquareRoot says:
        
        29/01/2017 at 02:11
        
        “51% of Macedonia is occupied by Greece today, illegally partitioned in 1913 ”
        
        A. Even on this very thread Skopian fascist shamelessly imply Macedonian Greece is “occupied” territory.
        
        B. The borders you describe as “Macedonia” are a creation of a fiction of Slav propagandist’s imagination. The borders have never existed as you describe them.
        
        C. When it comes to Kingdom of ancient Macedon, the homeland of Alexander, it’s in Greece not ancient Paeonia (Skopje)
        
        D If you bothered to read the treaty of Bucharest you would notice their is no refernce to “ethnic Maceodnians”… but it does mention Greeks and Bulgarians.
        
        E. Also “forgotten” by Skopians.. in 1913 your virtually all called yourselves BULGARIANS living in macedonia.
        
        F. If you now suddenly ridiuclously claim to be founders of the Hellenistic period.. rather odd that you are antihellenic no?
  - SquareRoot says:
    
    28/01/2017 at 04:09
    
    P.S. Ancient Macedonians self-identified as Greeks dear-ski.
    
    I though your Slavs claimed the right to self-determination an absolute? Funny how your rules changes with Greeks.
    
  - SquareRoot says:
    
    29/01/2017 at 03:26
    
    You forgot the part that Macedonia was *Greek* Kingdom.
    
    The homeland of Alexander was most certainly not the homeland of antihellenic Slavs living in ancient Paeonia. Rather strange that the newly minted founders of the Hellenistic period would be antihellenic no?
    
Evan Bekiaris says:

27/01/2017 at 01:21

I have read many ignorant and biased Greek comments about their views on the issue of Macedonia and Macedonians….and Hank is an excellent example of how those Greeks wear their ignorance and racisms against all things Macedonian…like a badge of honour. Stupidity is more like it, I say….. good luck with your stupid ramblings….. I say France for the French, Italy for the Italians….and Macedonia for the Macedonians….your claims on Macedonia for Greece…..go take a hike……She does not and never will belong to you.

- SquareRoot says:
  
  27/01/2017 at 08:07
  
  Dear fake account-ski. Macedonia, the homeland of Alexander, is already in Greece . Not the fault of Greeks you don’t know that and that you have confused ancient paeonia (Skopje) with Macedonia.
  
  And to have read ignorant and biased anti-Greek comments… by masses of pretentious bigots that evade as antihellenic Slavs.. .based in ancient Paeonia… now ridiculously claim to be founders of the Hellenstic period.
  
  Support of Skopje in name dispute = ethnic cleanser of Greeks. Full stop.
  
  - Sexy Stavroula says:
    
    27/01/2017 at 13:45
    
    @badRoot – I think you need a box of Kleenex.
    
    - SquareRoot says:
      
      28/01/2017 at 02:40
      
      Oh look… the propagandist slav pretending to be Greek can’t even address the point. What’s with the giant Alexander statues in ancient Paeonia dear Slav?
      
      - Ted Kosta says:
        
        28/01/2017 at 04:20
        
        Geeks have 35% Slav DNA, Republic of Macedonian has 30% Slav DNA, Greece occupied 51% of Macedonian land in 1913 Treaty of Bucharest this is a fact! And only then did 51% of Macedonian become part of Greece never ever before then! Macedonia was a kingdom while the Hellens were city states, now there is a big peace of proof there! Alexander the Great learned Koine, could speak Koine and write Koine but also spoke Macedonian what ever that was but was not modern Greek! Koine was the first and only alphabet of its time and region and a prince would be educated in it as you would expect, it was used as an administrative language for royals and military leaders to communicate with each other, it was later adopted by the modern Greek state as its official language to replace Bulgarian which was the common language of the modern Greek state! The word Geek, like yogurt is not Greek it was given to them by the Romans after conjuring the Hellen’s and inslaving them and called them Greko! Now all this is researchable on the net but the Geek fcuk ups are just that fuked up!
      - SquareRoot says:
        
        29/01/2017 at 02:17
        
        Um… its not Koine… It Koine Greek champ. Koine just means “common” Greek troll . You also seem to have trouble remembering that Nacedonians spread the Greek language during the Hellenistic period… not a Bulgarian dialect modified and renamed “Macedonian” by Yugoslav communist propagandists.
        
        Tell your crackpot historica and racial theories to neo-nazis and the masses of Greek hating jerks that unethnically evade as you try to narrate
        yourselves into “ancient Macedonians”. Obviously they care far more about hiding their mistake of calling you obvious frauds “Macedonians” than actual ethics. Maybe they will continue to listen as you attempt to rewrite western history and use that to flagrently promote irredentism against Greece.
        
        Alexander the Great… Slav. . Best of luck to you Slavs. I’m sure with enough recognition the Greek writing on ancient Macedonian artifacts will disappear.
- Michael Danias says:
  
  08/03/2017 at 09:02
  
  have a dna test evan. if you test positive as a slav you will apologies to all in this forum. if you test positive as an ancient macedonian ill hand over my bank account and house to you. Do it for your own clarity. Its not fair on you.
  
Temudjin Osvajac says:

27/01/2017 at 05:50

Serbs did the exact same mistake with Croats and Bosnian, and after only a 100 years, the language is suddenly “Croatian’ and “Bosnian(strangely as language is made only by words and not also from syntax and grammar), never the less syntax and grammar are purely Serbian. Countless history facts were twisted and banded to favor emergence of “new nations”(what we see here,..now,..only after 25 years Alexander The great is some “Macedonian” from today’s Macedonia).
These ‘new nations” in search for its own nationality and pride, their roots and country,..tend to take all that from the older nations. They are NOTHING but “national plagiarists” .
In next 100 years, some people in that Macedonia will look over to Greek Macedonia and say: “look there is also Macedonia there, Greece took it from us,..”
That the very same thing happened to Serbs with Bosnian and Croats

- Sexy Stavroula says:
  
  27/01/2017 at 13:50
  
  Mffffff something really reeks on Greek
  
  - SquareRoot says:
    
    29/01/2017 at 02:36
    
    “Mffffff something really reeks on Greek”
    
    Nice comment. VMRO fascist version of “human rights”.
    
Mijak Papra says:

27/01/2017 at 06:37

Bravo! Mr Tajani Bravo!

SquareRoot says:

27/01/2017 at 07:51

What a surprise. Greek hating trolls out in force once again. Greeks objects to nation using Greek name to bizarrely try to usurp their very identity… the fault of Greeks.

- Sexy Stavroula says:
  
  27/01/2017 at 13:47
  
  @badRoot – did you have to type in “Macedonia” again in Google news? How does that feel inside? he he
  
  - SquareRoot says:
    
    28/01/2017 at 02:41
    
    Sounds like that what you do dear Slav. So whats with using a Greek name dear-ski? Trying to fool posters that you are Greek? Shameless propagandist.
    
    - Sexy Stavroula says:
      
      28/01/2017 at 09:30
      
      @badRoot – why if you can be 100% Greeks with Turkish names then so can I ..woot woot
      
      - SquareRoot says:
        
        29/01/2017 at 02:22
        
        I don’t have a “Turkish” name but I bet you have a slav name. (that is… when you aren’t shamelessly creating fake handles that imply you are some other ethnic group to try to fool posters into thinking you are some objective third party)
        
        Good luck with your conscious propaganda Skopian. I’m sure the Greek writing on ancient Macedonian artifacts will disappear with enough recognition.
        
        Former Yugoslavians… the anti-Hellenic founders of the Hellenistic period. Makes sense.
      - SquareRoot says:
        
        29/01/2017 at 03:09
        
        @Sexy Stavroula-ski
        
        We can’t accept you as Macedonian because you are in no shape of form Macedonian. In fact by being anti-hellenic you are defacto ANTI-Macedonians. Alexander Hellenized because ancient Macedonians loved Hellenism.
        
        You Slavs on the other hand are literally the exact opposite. You hate Hellenism..
        
        Ergo – you are “Macedonians” in name alone.
SquareRoot says:

27/01/2017 at 08:01

Dear Sarantis Michalopoulos.

How much does Euroactiv.com owners pay you to call ancient paeonia “macedonia”? How much do they pay you to call former Yugoslavians “macedonians”? You think its an accident they choose a “Greek” like you to report on this issue when Greeks are united across party lines on this issue?

It is precisely corrupt cowards like you that is what is wrong with Greece. No principles whatsoever. Since so many foreigners ridiculously trying to ethnic engineer Slavs into “macedonians”… COWARDS like you take their money and try to fit in. Rather than condemn Skopian irredentism, rather than condemn the foreign nationalist that all evade to hide their mistake of calling them “Macedonians”… you sell out Hellenism to the highest bidder. Ephialtes.

Well dear… any “Greek” that calls Skopians “Macedonians” has abdicated their right to claim to speak as a Greek. The editors of this website can manipulative push out “Greeks” like you all they wish. You no more “Greek” than the communist fifth columnists that supported Skopians during the Greek civil war… you know back when the west refused to recognize Skopians as “macedonians?

Sarantis Michalopoulos. Greek in name alone. An unprincipled coward for hire to the highest bidder.

- Sexy Stavroula says:
  
  27/01/2017 at 13:49
  
  @badRoot – “The idea the Greeks of modern times were descendants of Pericles or Socrates and not a Turkish-molded mixture of Slavs, Byzantines and Albanians, was a belief among the educated Europeans. Also the architects of the EU could not escape this belief. In this senses, they brought the clammy Greece into the European boat in 1980. The consequences can be admired every day.” – Die Welt (a German, your national identity creators)
  
  - SquareRoot says:
    
    28/01/2017 at 02:45
    
    Back at you dear SLAV.
    
    “Greeks, Armenians, Jews, Persians, Chinese and Japanese could be cited as examples of ethnic continuity, since, despite massive cultural changes over the centuries, certain key identifying components—name, language, customs, religious community and territorial association—were broadly maintained and reproduced for millennia. –
    Nationalism and Modernism: A Critical Survey of Recent Theories of Nations, page 191, Anthony David Smith, Routledge, 1998 ”
    
    The modern Germans of Die Welt, and everyone else that ridiculously called you SLAVs Macedonians, are such Greek hating bigots they can’t even report history truthfully in their own lifetime. Masses of bigots evade as you turn into “ancient macedonians” and promote irredentism to hide their shame of supporting you.
    
  - SquareRoot says:
    
    28/01/2017 at 02:47
    
    Hey SLAV what did your own elected representatives mean by these words that all your foreign apologists, that claim to speak for history and ethics, seem to have developed a case of amnesia over?
    
    President Kiro Gligorov.
    ‘We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. That’s who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Greek – ‘Toronto Star newspaper, March 15, 1992.
    
    Gyordan Veselinov, FYROM Ambassador to Canada, Ottawa Citizen Newspaper, February 24 1999
    ‘We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian
    
    FYROM’S Ambassador to US Ljubica Acevshka to US represenatives in Washington DC Jan 22 1999
    “We do not claim to be descendants of Alexander the Great.”
    
    - Sexy Stavroula says:
      
      28/01/2017 at 09:29
      
      @badRoot – Greek scholar – The threats against Anastasia Karakasidou, 38, escalated last week when Stohos, an extreme right-wing Greek newspaper, published her address in Salonika. The newspaper also provided details of the car she uses while researching Macedonian-speaking villages in the northern Greece. So as not to stir controversy over the Macedonian debate in Greece, she decided not to publish her dissertation, Fields of Wheat, Hills of Shrubs, Agrarian Development and Nation Building in Northern Greece.
      
      Greek newspapers got their hands on the manuscript anyway. Since then, Ms Karakasidou, the mother of two young children, has been mercilessly hounded by sections of the Greek media and by the Greek-American community in the United States.
      
      She received a veiled death threat from a Greek-American newspaper in February, when it published an article describing a possible scenario for her death. It described an attack by a group of men, one of whom pushed a stick painted in the colours of the Greek flag into her heart, killing her as a traitor. It is thought that the veiled death threats were designed to frighten her away from academic research. In the US, Greek nationalists unsuccessfully lobbied to prevent Ms Karakasidou being given an assistant professorship at the City University of New York. In Salonika the secret police have ostentatiously visited her elderly mother.”. – Now why would she receive death threats? In hindsight, you’re a bunch of malakies – no talk just bitchin’
      
      - SquareRoot says:
        
        29/01/2017 at 02:29
        
        Ouuu. You got me. Anastasia Karakasidou is an incompetent post modernist ditz that deconstructs ethnic identities into nothingness (including you Skopians btw dear). She would claim people are just a collection of atoms. Karakasidou supported the extreme left in Greece last election (fellow extreme left nitwit Marxist Tsipiras). She would say and do anything to fit into the majority. During the Greek civil war pseudo Greeks like Marxist loving Karakasidou supported mass murders like Stalin and Tito and framed communist tyranny as “democracy”./
        
        Karakasidou lost all moral and academic credibility when she started to play stupid as you Slavs turned into “ancient macedonians” and used the name to promote irredentism… exactly as Greeks warned would happen if you were ridiculously recognized as “macedonians”.
      - SquareRoot says:
        
        29/01/2017 at 02:31
        
        Why don’t we talk about Skopans that admit their ethnic Bulgarians roots in Skopje comrade?
        
        No mention of the death threats and silencing of academics and journalists by VMRO that question you new official state narrative that you are “ancient Macedonians”?
      - SquareRoot says:
        
        29/01/2017 at 03:33
        
        @Sexy Boris
        
        Hey SLAV.. why didn’t you answer the question? Something to hide SLAV?
        
        “We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. That’s who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Greek and his Macedonia”
        
        First elected President of the former Yugoslav region of Vardar…. Kiro Gligorov, Toronto Star on March 15, 1992
SquareRoot says:

29/01/2017 at 03:18

“The government of Macedonia however says the majority of the population are not Slavs, but descendants from Alexander the Great.”

Correction. The government of the former Yugoslav region of Vardar *today* claim to be descendent’s of Alexander the Great

25 years ago when Greeks begged our alleged NATO allies not to recognize the name because they would once again manipulate it to promote irredentism… the former Yugoslavians government was assuring their foreign apologists the exact opposite. They were claiming they were Slavs. Their own, elected, government officials were assuring their foreign apologists they were unrelated to ancient Macedonians.

Many people that lectured Greece about the name over the years…. that claim to speak history.. that claim to have ethics… seem to have developed a case of selective amnesia.

The US. Chinese, Russian, British and many many other govern officials. The Guardian, Fox News, NY York Times and many other alleged “news” sources. Even alleged “Human Rights”… HRW… Amnesty International…

… all unethically evade.

Michael Danias says:

17/02/2017 at 02:53

Goce Delčev was a Bulgarian born in Greece. The Slavic Macedonians have claimed him which is fine for they too are ethnic Bulgarians. They also claimed from Bulgaria They also claimed the Bulgarian Andon Lazov Kjoseto as their own. Again that’s fine for they are ethnic Bulgarians and speak the same language. They also claim the Greek Alexander The Great as their own which is not fine for he was born in Greece to Greek parents. They also claim Mother Theresa as their own which is not fine for she was Albanian. When will the historical distortion in this country stop? Only they know. Cultural identity is controlled in Europes own theme park called Skopje. Identity building gone wrong and it’s only going to get worse unless they have a Slavic awakening and revolt. Raise arms and liberate yourselves from the conservative government that has attempted to brainwash its population. The Albanians need to stop taking bribes from Gruevski for only they can stop him.
Demolish your cheap Italian reproduction statues and take back your country. Burn your Greek symbol flags. Embrace your Bulgarian heritage and become part of the European community. Thank the Greek s for alphabet. Apologies for your governments behavior. Pay retributions for cultural theft and all will be forgiven.
the quicker they give the Albanians what they want with their official language demands the better off this so called country will be. The social democrats should form a coalition with the Albanian parties and rid them of the irredentist and corrupt VMRO-DPMNE party. Name change should be demanded by the EU and Slavic culture should be promoted again. “We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. That’s who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Great and his Macedonia. The ancient Macedonians no longer exist, they had disappeared from history long time ago. Our ancestors came here in the 5th and 6th century (AD).” Kiro Gligorov – the first president elect of Fyrom
First and foremost Macedonian language does not exist. Its Bulgarian. If you put a Bulgarian and a Slavic Macedonian in a room together they will communicate perfectly. It’s like a US born person speaking to a Canadian born person. They are both speaking English. So lets not beat around the bush. Its Bulgarian that they speak.
Secondly and just as important is that all Slavic Macedonians are Slavs. no ifs or buts. If they were all to undergo DNA tests they would test positive as Slavs. They are not related to ancient Macedonians who were Greek. They are not related to Alexander the great who was Greek. they are related to Goce Delčev who was a Bulgarian Slav. they are not related to mother Teresa who was an Albanian. cultural theft is what FYROM is built on. They grab everything close at hand as their own. The brainwashing by the VMRO-DPMNE of its citizens in the last decade is alarming. Cheap Italian reproduction statues of ancient persons adorn their capital. Millions of dollars spent creating a false history whilst the country languishes in financial peril. They even had the audacity to name their airport in the capital after an ancient figure that they are completely distant from. The Albanian minority will have their official language. The conservatives will continue to let the Slavic and Albanian populations of Fyrom down with a lack of morality, truth and transparency. Phone tapping and corruption are now visible. Cultural lies have been exposed. They will change their name for they have no choice . There are many options. They cannot possibly believe that they can take on the intellectual world with their stupidity. Our closest relatives, the Albanians (proud ancient illyrian people) will always act as a control mechanism in Fyrom. They have a higher birthrate than the slavic population. They have a far more radical irredentist ideology when it comes to Greater Albania than the Slavic Macedonians. If it can happen in Kosovo then it most certainly can happen in Fyrom. EU membership will never be an option. Greeks being a proud people of antiquity are offended. We will never entertain the stupidity of Fyrom. We are educated people that don’t have to question their origin. Its a continuum of the past. All they have to do is drop the cultural connection and their country will thrive. They are so dogmatic via ignorance that they are making life difficult for themselves. Elections, pollution, recognition, economic growth. It all stems from one thing – they are a basket case. Self inflicted pain which could have been avoidable if they just learnt their history.

Michael Danias says:

08/03/2017 at 08:59

When a nation has such a long and rich history they care about it. No country has given humanity more than Greece. The fact that you are able to wake up and vote in an election freely is because of the Greeks. Democracy is a special thing. You are free to choose your form of governance. When you are the most influential culture in history you try and protect your story. History must be always correct. If it’s not then it’s a distortion. Lets continue keeping history correct for it teaches us lessons for the future. The Greeks have been more than tolerant in the name issue of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia. France cannot steal England’s history nor can Croatia steal Italy’s history. World academia will not allow it. If you want to see something incorrect happen in history that involves the most important culture on earth you’re without conscience. I suggest you do a history coarse before commenting on this topic. A Bachelor of Arts with a major in Ancient history is the minimum required to comment on the naming dispute of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia. The world’s academics are all in agreeance. The Former Yugoslav Republic cannot use the name. It’s not correct. Macedonia is Greek. It belongs exclusively to the Greeks. There should be no negotiation or discussion. The imperial and secondary evidence is on hand. The scientific evidence is also there.
The not so new creature the Macedonian (ethnic Macedonian Slav )has existed since 1991. What was a regional consciousness in 1946 under Tito has developed into an ethnicity via Gligarov. Prior to 1946 Macedonian Slavs had always identified as ethnic Bulgarians but were spiritually from Macedonia. The same can be said for the Albanians and Greeks of Macedonia. They identified ethnically with their race but spiritually with their territory.
Gruevskis has spend too much time on his antiquization program creating a false history via his Las Vegas style 2014 program. By creating the myth which has permeated all levels of Slavic Macedonia’s uneducated society he has alienated the Albanians. Let us not forget that Albanians are indigenous to this territory and as such have the right to determine their identity and language. They either change their name and destroy their cheap Italian reproduction statues and become an inclusive society or the country will disintegrate. Had Gruevski not forged along with brainwashing of his population and his cultural theft, Slavic Macedonia would have been a productive member of Europe. Right now the country is a basket case with no positive future. They know what they have to do. The Albanians are on standby. 2001 was merely a warning. The USA has proven loyalty to the Albanians in Kosovo. They would not hesitate to fund an offensive against Slavic Macedonia in the name of selling arms. Gruevski through rejection desperately gravitates towards Russia. It will all turn nasty i feel. They need to change their name. They need to remove all reference to antiquity. They need to embrace the Albanians. They need to make friends with their neighbors. Politicians like Ljubo Georgievski and Zoran Zaev, although extremely different to each other, offer hope. The Slavic population must swallow their pride and listen to the world. Irredentist and antiquization platforms need to be eradicated. Albanians and Turks make up 35% of Slavic Macedonia’s population. This is too high of a percentage to ignore. They either work with their minority groups or the territory will be partitioned via a nasty civil war. Think twice Slavic Macedonia before commissioning another statue from the Italians and naming another airport.
We Greeks absorbed Bulgarian, Turkish and Albanian villages after the redrawing of the borders. For peace and homogeneity we did Hellenize this lot. It goes without saying. We had to. they could have left but decided to stay. All 5 nationalities considered themselves Macedonian and rightly so. By Hellenizing them we have avoided the social issues which Fyrom faces now. There is no denying we have Slavs in Greece. We do. If they feel victimized and discriminated against then they can go. They choose to stay. They are not ethnic Macedonians for this is an ancient region. Their language is Bulgarian so they are Bulgarian. Just like ours is Greek so we are Greek. Albanians and Turks still speak their language at home. We allow it. We accommodate all nationalities in Greece. None of these people can call themselves Macedonian. Its not an ethnicity. The Slavs are Bulgarians. Its written on 400 years of Ottoman records what each families nationality is. Ethnic Macedonians have never existed as a people nor has a state of Macedonia existed in our modern times. Its always been a region made up of various nationalities mainly Bulgarian, Turkish, Gypsies, Albanian and Vlachs. There is no doubt about this. Ethnic identity is based on language. Non of these groups can have exclusivity to being ethnic Macedonian for there is no such thing. Mother Theresa is an ethnic Albanian Macedonian. Alexander the Great was an ethnic Greek Macedonian. Gotse Delchev was an ethnic Bulgarian Macedonian, Tajar Tetova was an ethnic Albanian Macedonian, Elyesa Kaso was an Ethnic Turkish Macedonian, Yanaki Manaki was an ethnic Vlach Macedonian. So its quite simple, no group has the right to call themselves Macedonian exclusively. Fyrom must change its name for its only fair. Greeks, Vlachs, Albanians, Bulgarians all have the right to the regional name so it must be shared. Cultural theft is an intellectual crime. No one is saying that you do not have the right to a country because you do. You just don’t have the right to the name because you don’t.
FYROM needs to change their name, change their flag, rename their airport, destroy their cheap Italian reproduction statues, embrace their Slavic Bulgarian history, each have a DNA test for peace of mind and stop glorifying a connection to neighboring nations people.
Goce Delčev was a Bulgarian born in Greece. The Slavic Macedonians have claimed him which is fine for they too are ethnic Bulgarians. They also claimed the Bulgarian Andon Lazov Kjoseto as their own. Again that’s fine for they are ethnic Bulgarians and speak the same language. They also claim the Greek Alexander The Great as their own which is not fine for he was born in Greece to Greek parents. They also claim Mother Theresa as their own which is not fine for she was Albanian. When will the historical distortion in this country stop? Only they know. Cultural identity is controlled in Europe’s own theme park called Skopje. Identity building gone wrong and it’s only going to get worse unless they have a Slavic awakening and revolt. Raise arms and liberate yourselves from the conservative government that has attempted to brainwash its population. The Albanians need to stop taking bribes from Gruevski for only they can stop him.
Demolish your cheap Italian reproduction statues and take back your country. Burn your Greek symbol flags. Embrace your Bulgarian heritage and become part of the European community. Thank the Greek s for alphabet. Apologies for your governments behavior. Pay retributions for cultural theft and all will be forgiven.

“Goce Delchev and Dame Gruev used to pass Death Sentences to those who claimed the blood of Alexander runs in us“

Michael Danias says:

22/03/2017 at 00:11

The Macedonian Slavs need to get used to the fact that the Albanian population within FYROM is there to stay and will only grow. They either assume an antagonistic role and end up in a civil war or assume an inclusive role which safeguards Albanian language and identity and safeguards the Slavic Bulgarian heritage. Both groups need to coexist on the land together in a peaceful manner. The nationalistic approach of the Bulgarian Slavic population will only get them into trouble via a civil war. The Albanians have proven resilience over many centuries. They have an ancestral connection in FYROM which is over 7000 years old, a lot longer than there Bulgarian Slavic co-occupiers. It’s not about Greater Albania. The Albanians of FYROM have no intention of separating. What they want is equal recognition and a stop to a false culture which has been engineered by The Bulgarian Slavic population. They cannot identify with an imposed Hellenic culture. They want a neutral landscape. It’s a composite country made up of Bulgarian Slavs, Albanians, Vlachs, Turks, Romani, Serbs and Pomaks. The last census was in 2002. That’s 15 years ago. Back then these groups were at 35%. Right now if FYROM were to conduct a census it would cause a cultural earthquake. They need to be all inclusive. The Gruevski master plan of Skopje 2014 is a polarizer. No group other that the brainwashed Bulgarian Slavs can identify with it. Gruevski exacerbated a volatile phenomena that has been fed for decades by the Diaspora community since the umbilical cord to Bulgaria was cut by Tito. The educated Bulgaria Slavs know their roots. The not so educated Bulgarian Slavs are vulnerable to propaganda. The Nazification of Fyrom has been fueled by the VMRO-DPMNE. They and they alone have embarked on the insanity that is Antiquization. Their school curriculums have been contaminated. Imagine teaching an Albanian child that his ancestor is a Greek by the name of Alexander the Great. It bad enough trying to get the Bulgarian Slavic community to believe it but they do. Both groups cannot even pronounce the historical Greek names. They are foreign words that have been imposed by one man and one party – Gruevski and the VMRO-DPMNE. Politicians like Zaev and Georgievski offer hope. Unfortunately when they speak out they are accused of being traitors and undermining the cultural fabric. What cultural fabric? It’s a fabrication. The VMRO-DPMNE was founded as a mirror modern day version of the Bulgarian Patriot liberation organization the IMRO. Staunchly Slavic Bulgarian in ethnicity. Staunchly unionist with Bulgaria. Gruev & Dalchev who are now national heroes of Bulgaria and FYROM used to pass death sentences on any Slavs claiming that the blood of Alexander The Great ran through them. If they were still around half of the population of FYROM would be dead. They (FYROM) are culturally gluttonous. Not only do they want to embrace the Bulgarian culture that is within them but they also want to steal an older culture which they not connected to. They cannot have both. Its either one or the other. If it’s Hellenic culture then apologize to Bulgaria and give them back their history. If its Bulgarian culture then keep Gruev & Dalchev ,drop Alexander and apologize to Greece. This is not like sexuality. You cannot be Bi-Historical. You are either one or the other. It is understandable why the Albanians are so pissed off. I fear the worst. 2001 was merely a warning. If Ivanov and Gruevski continue trying to protect their Hellenistic stolen culture they will end up in a civil war. The reason the country is failing is because it is based on artificial foundations. Rotten to the core. Deluded in all aspects. They need to demolish those grotesque reproduction Italian made statues, rename their airport, change their flag, rename their highways, burn their heretic encyclopedias, change the school curriculum, drop the irredentist platform and the country will thrive. Nations can only be established on correct cultural foundations. FYROM is sitting on stilts and is about to collapse.

Alex Sapkar says:

26/06/2017 at 03:31

Dear Greek friends, I consider myself a native Macedonian. But since you have made up your mind that all native Macedonians and other tribes that lived in the territory of Ancient Macedonia have all died out, then its very simple – I cant be Ancient Macedonian – Why? Because Greece has DNA tested every person that lives in the territory of the Ancient Macedonians. so I will conclude with the following – the Ancient Illiryans, Macedonians, and all other groups simply became extinct like the Dodo bird! However, the Athenians and the Spartans survived and after numerous names and occupations by Romans, Ottomans and others they finally got a new King – King Otto. The question is how did they not become extinct when everyone around them (that even ruled them) died out? and how can I become a Hellene because I am sick and tired of being a Slave – because you said so….. I do know a few words of Greek – does that qualify me????

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