Comments on: Devil in the detail of Europe’s 2050 transport model EU news and policy debates across languages Wed, 21 Nov 2018 15:10:56 +0000 hourly 1 By: Sat, 28 Jul 2018 22:48:35 +0000 The reality of transport is that Japan, Korea and China are all ramping up production of both fuel cell and electric vehicles as we speak. FCEVs are genuinely the answer to transport, and although China has many 100s of thousands of battery powered buses already, these batteries are often not lithium meaning a lower overall cost, and they have much of the worlds known resources of lithium and cobalt anyway. I am not sure that enough is going to be found to replace fossil fuels to the level required; and it is in this way that fuel cells and hydrogen make so much sense.

Toyota is moving into new production facilities which will enable it to build 30,000 vehicles per year by 2020, and it will have about 200 refuelling stations domestically by this point. By 2030, Japan plans to have 900 stations and 800,000 vehicles.

Many industrial centres in China are also betting heavily on FCEVs. Wuhan alone will have over 100 fuel cell automakers and related enterprises, with 30 to 100 hydrogen fueling stations planned by 2025.


“To deploy FCEVs in China, the government has announced plans to build hydrogen infrastructure to support about 50,000 zero-emissions fuel-cell cars by 2025, with plans to rapidly expand to 1 million FCEVs in service by 2030. Under China’s New Energy Vehicle roadmap, the country will also build 300 hydrogen refueling stations by 2025 and 1,000 by 2030. In conjunction with the Chinese government, several regions and cities—such as Rugao, Shanghai, Guangdong, and Wuhan—have also established hydrogen development centers and communicated ambitious roll-out plans.”

Korea have a similarly ambitious strategy:

“The government in Seoul agreed with South Korea’s industry to invest about 2 billion euros (2.6 trillion Won) into hydrogen mobility over the next five years. Facilities building fuel cell vehicles and those doing R&D will receive funding in order to reach the ambitious targets.

In detail, Korea aims to fund 15,000 fuel cell vehicles and 1,000 hydrogen buses by 2022. On top, the funding programme includes 310 new hydrogen filling stations and the government also vowed to adapt regulation.”

By: SCO Fri, 27 Jul 2018 09:27:40 +0000 Transport at zero emissions in 2050??? A lot of things are technically possible but are not cost-efficient. Unfortunately we do not live in Lala-land and electrification will only be possible if you take into account that there will be a significant rise in power demand, additional grid network capacity will be necessary, you will still need a high amount of gas to assure reliability of the electricity supply, renewables, as you may know, still depend on wind and sun…… Without a reliable (energy-) infrastructure you will not get the electric vehicles on the road. Furthermore electric trucks and busses are much heavier and may not be able to drive on some roads, who are not made for the extra load. A normal bus weighs around 12–13 T, an electric one 18 T, so some urban roads are just not made for this kind of extra weight. And when you know how long it takes to get any infrastructure works done her in Europe, well, this is not for tomorrow. Sometimes a little sense of reality would be very welcome!!!